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Scot Gov Approves INFINIS Windy Edge of Hermitage Castle


11/13/2016 MSE

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Hermitage Castle’s Infinis’ Windy Edge


Once a contractor has been approved, government wise it does not carry to a new contractor. Once INFINIS  has been approved, the government of Scotland if honest has to require approval also from the new contractor MUIRHALL. Otherwise it is considered “bait and switch”.

The honest people of today’s Scottish government will support an approval procedure for, Muirhall Windy Edge, with a majority determining the outcome, not a single individual, in a dictatoral sense. Approved appeals such as North British Windpower NBW Fallago Rig, and Infinis Windy Edge, felt to be fixed by Scottish government officials; those officials will not show support for a non-fixed approval system, because they already know that if the approval system is not fixed that Windy Edge Wind Farm will not be approved.



Denholm drop in session re wind farms

Denholm village – Oct 12th 6-8pm (2017) in the small village hall
Denholm, Hawick Google map

Dear all
There are so many different wind farms being targeted at this area “Carpet Bombing”, it is becoming very confusing as to what actually is the state of play with the multitude of applications.

Windy Edge ..Muirhall  Consented   9 turbines (110 and 125m high)  .. Likely to see an application to increase the height

It was INFINIS, not Muirhall which was consented the 9 turbines.

Denholm drop in session re wind farms | Lilliesleaf, Ashkirk & Midlem ……/denholm-drop-in-session-re-wind-fa…


Oct 9, 2017 – Greencoat Uk Wind . Operational 10 turbines (121.5 m high). Windy Edge ..MuirhallConsented 9 turbines (110 and 125m high) .. Likely to see an application to increase the height. In planning. Birneyknowe ..Banks ..15 Turbines 132 metres high. Heading to appeal. pre enquiry meeting due at the end of the …

Application approval to increase height is a way around trying to show that they are not approved. Only wind farm corporate industrially paid government officials would approve height increase.

Ask oneself; has a Scottish Border Wind Farm been repealed without an accepted appeal?

Hermitage Action Group;

Thanks; To THE HERMITAGE ACTION GROUP, and Malcolm McGregor Chair, and all the Gregors, in support in protecting the borderlands; The Reivers are taking over from you Gregor highlanders, by pitching in to protect the heritage of our own Border Homelands.



Rob Roy MacGregor Tartan, US; Buffalo Plaid, Chief Malcolm MacGregor who’s protecting his homeland married to Fiona Armstrong not same as Chair of Hermitage Action Group Malcolm McGregror who’s group has been protecting my border homeland of Gorrenberry, and The Hermitage Castle from Infinis (Muirhall), Windy Edge wind farm. Time for the Borders including Armstrong and Elliot to take on their own responsibility from these Mac/Mc Gregor highlanders, and defend again the border homeland.

Scottish Native Woodland created by Tilhill Forestry as part of major Jubilee project
At the end of the project, around 440,000 trees will have been planted at Gorrenberry Farm in the Hermitage Valley in the Scottish Southern Uplands.


At time of King James VI of Scotland become I of a united kingdom, MacGregor in highlands had disnaming proccess along with a year later in the borders with the Graham on English side of the Debatable lands (Reivers, Alistair Moffat pg 19). Though MacGregor as highlanders follow a pattern of leadership, Graham as border since leaders like Johnnie Armstrong where hung followed the border pattern of pitching and self leadership with inter communication with other border people along the borders. With displacement the border people were divided, and with the internet today they are reconnected.With the name Elwald which became Elliot on the borders of Scotland , also became Edward in England, as part of a disnaming process.

People in the UK may not have respect for my Scottish ancestors of Ulster Ireland came to America at the time of Oliver Cromwell.   Guess that is what one gets when they fought for reinstatement of king to Charles II.

West Lothian question


“The first slaves to work Barbados’ sugar cane plantations were Scottish, not African. Mostly POWs from the 17th-century civil war in England, they were shipped to Barbados by Cromwell as “indentured servants,” although the terms of their servitude weren’t honored.

The Scots were ill-adapted to the Caribbean climate and treated as poorly as the Africans who came after. Even after emancipation in 1854, they fared poorly, welcomed neither by White society nor Black. Today, many of their ancestors, most of whom live in St John’s district, don’t know about their forebears. The poor don’t leave records; their identity is lost to history.”


Wind Mill Plantations in St Andrew’s Parish, Scotland, Barbados where Cromwell sent the Scots;




Guy Hewitt: Barbados remembers Scots heritage on St Andrew’s Day  by GUY HEWITT 11/30/2016


St Andrew a parish in the Scotland region of Barbados, and also the patron saint of Barbados.

Prisoners from the Battles of Dunbar (1650) and Worcester (1651)

To me though my family were Royalist, and supported Charles II over Cromwell, and would do so today. Remember my family marries Irish Catholics, and at the time granddad Daniel Ellot (Elliot), was of Tullykelter, Fermanagh, Ulster, Ireland, an Anglican-Hamilton estate, and it is felt that Alexander Hamilton’s family went through the same; it is felt this is really hitting the Royalty which does not like wind farms also below the belt, and I am an American.

‘Sheep stealers from the north of England’: the Riding Clans in Ulster by Robert Bell

Guess some people get a laugh at it, but its;

The Scottish Trail of Tears

Barbados-POW Scots 1650

Prince Charles endorses wind power in new film at Sundance Festival 29 Apr 2012

“the commitment to working with nature’s freely-given forms and clean energy” and hailed Germany’s enthusiastic approach to wind-powered energy.

Solar panels can be hidden, unlike wind mills into their environment, much like in the western US making cell phone towers look like ponderosa pine trees to blend into their environment.

He said: “I recently flew over the German countryside where ancient buildings and castles now merge into a new landscape dotted with solar panels and wind turbines. I certainly support the commitment to working with nature’s freely-given forms and clean energy.” correction according to the reporter he did say wind turbines for Germany, though wind turbines, radio/cell towers, and power lines scar the surface, the wind mill is the most difficult to hide, like power, and pipe lines below surface.

Being from the US, and not of the UK, I kind of wonder if Prince Charles, like the name of the king my family fought as Royalist for which put me in today’s US; I kind of wonder if he is ever misquoted. Use to Nordic ski in Park City near Salt Lake City, many years ago, where the Sundance Film Festival. As a student of mining engineering at the University of Utah, in Salt Lake where the Later Day Saints, pre web days had the largest archive of genealogical materials toured an underground mine there which had a flat belt hoist. Park City Venture a lead, zinc, and silver cut and fill mine below the workings of the old Ontario mine. Underground structure though massive, far less of a destructive impact to the wild and human life on the surface than a wind generator. The old mining town was the basis from this tourist development, where it appears like people think mining of silver with lead and zinc, in the contact ore would be. Too over developed for me, one who once worked in underground mines. People which call themselves environmentalists which support this industrial development of wind turbines, are anti-environment, wild life, and humans have a difficult time living with these things, even for Prince Charles. One may disguise a cell phone tower in a city to look like a tree, but how do you disguise a windmill in the country to look like a tree?

My dad’s mom is a Spencer, and I am sure ready for a son of a Spencer, a Stewart/Stuart, that of William a good Gorrenberry name to be on the throne again. Both my dad and Diana are not around any more. They sure did not like the number thirteen.

Even Buck (Buccleuch of Walter Scot fame) is said to be of the same Charles II, a Stuart/Stewart as Diana.




This article as one can see was posted pre-incident in May;

It was easily forecasted what was going to happen since no one on the Northern British Windpower NBW came out against it.

Christopher Wilkins of Redheugh, Michael Kerr of Ferniehirst (The 13th Marquess of Lothian), and Guy Innes-Ker, Cessford (Duke of Roxburghe) all been of North British Windpower NBW, did not oppose Guy Hand’s Infinis or it’s sell to Muirhall.



Because what happen to Fallago Rig;


Fallago Rig Enquiry Court Reporter Inkling-Blots

Dukes lose battle over Fallago Rig windfarm

Wonder if The North British Windpower NBW gang is against the Chinese State from putting a wind farm next to the Hermitage Castle.

True reivers keep on riding in defense of their border fort.

Felt since I pre-posted about a week before the Scottish Government to allow the Chinese State to encroach on a borders fort; Articles posted in early June may give more perspective on situation;

From BBC; Windy Edge wind farm appeal succeeds 9 June 2016

Also link in;


A wind farm threatens our landscape

added 8/28/2016

Scot Gov Approves INFINIS Windy Edge of Hermitage Castle

But not Muirhall.


Fallago Rig is an example of the work of The Scottish Government, and North British Windpower NBW, Redheugh, Ferniehirst and Cessford old rivals of Buccleuch.


From Eskdale & Liddesdale Advertiser; Windy Edge not place for turbines says council

From Berwick Advertiser; Fallago Rig Wind Turbines Start Turning

Info in TelegraphDuke of Northumberland: an unlikely hero;

More info from TelegraphThe aristocrats cashing in on Britain’s wind farm subsidies

Though the Duke of Northumberland refuses wind farm on his land along the English side of the borders, Redheugh, Ferniehirst, and Cessford all of North British Windpower, before being sold to EDF Energy as a coallition, could be feuding still with large land holder and old rival Buccleuch, who has been proposing a large wind farm. Border aristocrats in the past have competed for power which means money, even at the destruction of their own lands and the borderlands. If Northumberland, could help the border rival aristocrat in Scotland come to some sort of agreement in preservation, maybe they will not destroy their own lands for their family futures and that of the people of the border.

BBC; Fallago Rig wind farm development sold 2 February 2012

For over five centuries the Clan Armstrong and Buccleuch, along with the Ellot (ie Elliot) have been protecting The Hermitage Castle.

Fall ago Rig has been one of the more controversial wind farms erected in Berwickshire.

There was considerable local opposition, and Scottish Borders Council rejected it.

It took two public inquiries before the Scottish Government eventually gave wind farm developers North British Windpower the go ahead in November 2010 to build the farm on land owned by the Duke of Roxburgh.

Bewickshire NewsFallago Rig Wind Turbines Start Turning

Clan Armstrong;

Clan Armstrong through their Scottish Trust and Armstrong through out the world are protecting The Hermitage Castle. This response is of The Armstrong of they United States.

Borders,  know to protect the heritage of the borderlands, is protecting the heritage of those of the borderlands, in former English Plantations of Ulster and around the world.



Borderland Scots with also Borderland English, are now re-linked Globally through the internet, to their border homeland, and their first step, the Ulster Plantation.  Acting individually with similar values, we create one strong arm.

Fiona Armstrong;


One of its best-known members (Clan Armstrong Trust) is BBC newsreader Fiona Armstrong who told us: “Yes, I know of this story and having filmed at Hermitage many times I would not like to see a wind farm there.”

“With the Clan Armstrong Trust, I set up the Reiver Trail five years ago and that takes in Hermitage. Many people use the trail, especially from abroad when they come to trace their borderland roots, and I fear a wind farm will not add to the magic of the area.”

“I am not against wind farms per se – although I do have some doubts about their efficiency – but they have to be situated in the right place.”

Read more from Southern ReporterReivers Author Would Have Fought To Save Hermitage


United States of America, a former English Plantation is in celebration the hundredth anniversary of their US National Park System which protects their ancestral-archaeological-historical heritage. One example for over a 100 years is Chaco Canyon, which visitors around the world visit;

NM USA hosts international visitors


Duke of Buccleuch;


The Buccleuch family estates has been protecting the Hermitage Castle for over five hundred years and are still protecting it today.

To the south of the castle is the Langholm Estate, part of Buccleuch Estates, which is lodging an objection. ‘To pollute the landscape backdrop of the castle with all its power to evoke the history and heritage of the Scottish Borders would be nothing short of vandalism,’ stresses The Duke of Buccleuch. His hydrocarbons and minerals director, Mark Oddy, agrees: ‘This is one of the most important buildings of its kind in Scotland, and our feeling is that this proposal will destroy its setting forever.

From Country LifeWind Farm Battle Over Scottish Castle

Old rivals (Redhuegh-Clan Elliot Chief, Ferniehirst-Clan Kerr Chief, and Cessford-Duke of Roxburghe) of the Armstrong and Buccleuch with the assistance of The Scottish Government out of profits and power, and of an old feud with Buccleuch are trying to destroy the heritage of the borderlands, and the importance of a major historical-archaeological-antiquity in resemblance, of a people of a Scottish Border Homeland living in the Plantation in a land the “sun would never set on”.















Redheugh (Clan Elliot Chief);


NBW is chaired by another Better Together donor, Christopher Wilkins, a former soldier with links to MI6, who recently gave £10,000.

Both Fraser and Wilkins are also significant shareholders in NBW.

From heraldscotlandNo Vote Donors Caught In Wind Farm Payments Row

The Kerr;

Cessford (Duke Roxburghe), and Ferniehirst (Clan Kerr chief);


Cessford and Ferniehirst are not representing the border Kerr.

Philip Kerr chairs Chesters in opposition to another Infinis Wind Farm in the borderlands, and the Duke of Buccleuch is married to a Kerr. Yes, the Duchess of Buccleuch is a Kerr.

Fall ago Rig has been one of the more controversial wind farms erected in Berwickshire.

There was considerable local opposition, and Scottish Borders Council rejected it.

It took two public inquiries before the Scottish Government eventually gave wind farm developers North British Windpower the go ahead in November 2010 to build the farm on land owned by the Duke of Roxburgh.

From Berwickshire NewsFallago Rig Wind Turbines Start Turning

Redheugh (Clan Eliott), Ferniehirst (Clan Kerr) and Cessford (Clan Ker-), are using acquisitions of money through North British Wind Power NBW, to get power, wealth and position over old border foes, Buccleuch, and Northumberland which are heroes protecting the borderlands from industrial encroachment such as NBW Fallago Rig, and Infinis (Muirhall) Windy Edge. NBW Fallago Rig, and Infinis (Muirhall) Windy Edge have been both approved of over the objections of the borderlanders, and The Scottish Border Council SBC, being superseeded by the Scottish Government with minimum number making the decision.  Wonder if their families are over the borderlands, or have corporate (wind farm)-governmental (Scottish) influences making up their decision process?

Utilizing the authority of  one or few individuals of the Scottish Government to supersede the wishes of many on the border, and many border ancestors spread throughout the world; those few of course can not be corrupted by North British Windpower NBW or Infinis Windy Edge and their Scottish Governmental supervisors, can they?

Note: There are the heroes in defending the borderlands from North British Windpower NBW, with strong links to Scottish Government;

Duke of Northumberland: an unlikely hero in the fight against wind farms

Ralph Percy, the 12th Duke of Northumberland, has emerged as the unlikely people’s hero in the fight against wind farms spreading across Britain.

From TelegraphDuke of Northumberland an unlikely hero in the fight against wind farms

Clan Eliott

If Clan Elliot was truly allied to Clan Armstrong they would come out in support of The Clan Armstrong Trust. Since they haven’t they are feuding with the Scott, and we know what good could can come from it.

Being an Elliott; I am proud to say that I as Elliot in past is riding as reiver with the Armstrong and Buccleuch to defend The Hermitage Castle, from Infinis (Muirhall) Windy Edge wind farm supported by North British Windpower NBW, therefor the Scottish Government, and old rivals of Buccleuch; Redheugh, the aristocratic Kerr; Cessford and Ferniehirst.

Mark S. Elliott    5/30/2016


“This will trash the area for tourism”

2 Feb 2016 / David Knox, News Editor


Is Guy Hands trying to add Infinis (Muirhall) Windy Edge to the portfolio to increase the price?

Given Moody’s; Moody’s changes outlook on Infinis’s B1 ratings to negative; confirms ratings  Global Credit Research – 18 Dec 2015

Environmental Finance; Infinis to be sold ‘in three chunks’ 18 April 2016

Guy Hands is again trying to sell his UK renewables business, Infinis, and is understood to be prepared to break it up into three chunks to help flush out buyers, Environmental Finance has learned.

Added 6/24/2016

Infinis not Muirhall Windy Edge appeal;

Infinis Windy Edge appeal


From BBC; Windy Edge wind farm appeal succeeds 9 June 2016

A wind farm rejected by a council as “incongruous and anachronistic”

incongruous; not in harmony or keeping with the surroundings or other aspects of something (wind turbine array next to a medieval castle ). 
anachronistic; something that is not in its correct historical or chronological time, especially a thing that belongs to an earlier time ( wind turbine in contrast to the Hermitage Castle).  10/15/2016

has been approved on appeal. The nine-turbine Windy Edge project south of Hawick has been given the green light by a Scottish government reporter. Scottish Borders Council rejected the plans about a year ago due to concerns over its effect on the landscape. A reporter found it would have “no unacceptable environmental impacts” and ruled it could proceed. The project attracted more than 300 letters of opposition, along with more than 100 in support of the scheme.

Image (Hermitage Castle) caption;
A reporter found the development would not have an impact on nearby Hermitage Castle

Planning officials recommended refusal and councillors voted by six to two to reject the proposals. Supporters of the scheme claimed the turbines would have less of an impact on the landscape than forestry, and that it would help combat climate change. Now the Scottish government reporter has decided the project can go ahead. He concluded the development “would not impact on the setting” of the nearby Hermitage Castle and chapel.

Windy Edge wind farm BBC News

Google “BBC Windy Edge”;

Succeeds June 9, 2016;

Rejected June 29, 2015;


Note; 2012 North British Windpower NBW became EDF Energy

A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words

windfarmaction picture worth a 100 words

windfarmaction; A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words;

EDF Energy Renewables Ltd bought out North British Windpower Ltd at the beginning of 2012.

24 May 2013 – EDF Energy was handed £1.45 million between April 29 and May 15 to shut down turbines on the Fallago Rig wind farm.

MSE 7/17/2016

UK: 22.5MW Windy Edge approved on appeal Fri Jun 10 2016, 16:53 PM

A nine-turbine development is planned

Infinis’ (not Muirhall) 22.5MW Windy Edge has been approved on appeal. Scottish Borders Council refused permission in June 2015, but the Scottish Government has now approved it. The nine-turbine project is planned for a site near Hawick, southern Scotland.

MSE 7/17/2016

THE SOUTHERN REPORTER: Tide of criticism over Infinis stock flotation Nov 1, 2013

Tide of criticism over Infinis stock flotation

Is a false history written by Infinis worth promises of corporate dividends?

Despite the Scottish Government ‘guidance’ of £5,000 per installed MW, which has been indicated as the going rate, Infinis are only prepared to offer £3,500 per installed MW, claiming that ‘there was not enough money in the kitty’, and the level was set centrally.

Read more:

7/17/2016 MSE

FINANCIAL TIMES; Terra Firma eyes exit from flagship green bet Infinis

FINANCIAL TIMES; Terra Firma eyes exit from flagship green bet Infinis;
Guy Hands’ private equity group exploring Infinis Energy stake sale DECEMBER 15, 2014 by: John Aglionby and Robin Wigglesworth    added 8/5/2016 MSE

EDF Energy buys controversial Scottish wind farm


French EDF buys Scottish Borders North British Windpower

EDF Energy buys controversial Scottish wind farm

By Diarmaid Williams
International Digital Editor

French utility EDF has increased its involvement in the Scottish renewable energy market after purchasing North British Windpower in the Scottish Borders.

BBC; Fallago Rig wind farm seeks operational life extension 10 February 2016

From the section South Scotland

7/18/2016 MSE

EDF Energy Renewables Takes Over Scottish Wind Farm, Buys Owner

With North British Windpower NBW, EDF gets Fallago Rig wind farm.

EDF Energy purchases North British Windpower NBW with Fallago Rig

7/22/2016 MSE



Individual Mark Stephen Elliott, did not intend to be in situation like this;
Genealogy is a hobby of mine, and am one which searches and seeks, a Quaker.

So sign on The Church of Later Day Saints Family History Library, on west side of Temple Square, Salt Lake City, Utah, USA states;

Find Your Ancestors - Find Yourself


This R-U106 Daniel Elliot Group, which left testimony with Salem Witch Trials and holds true today, got me interested in tracing my Y-DNA;

line of fathers Y-DNA chromosome

Which meant from father to father, also passing through the Y-Chromosome the characteristics of the father. My father Loren Spencer Elliott was a excellent genealogist, and he died Jan 22 of this year, but felt I did better, which was quite a compliment.

Research I did is included in;

Proto-Germanic R-U106 haplogroup DNA Elwald-Elliot

You might like to look at the picture of Hermitage Castle …… of this page – study it for a while and then imagine that some avaricious power company called Infinis  (now Muirhall) wants to destroy 1000 years of history and heritage by sticking up wind turbines taller than the Forth Bridge in it’s environs , – is there nothing that people wont destroy for a quick buck?

Guess David P. Elliot is family, and though being from New Mexico, USA am a Hawick (pronounce hoik) Man. Hawick is the town near Elwald-Ellot-Elliot surname evolution, and has the greatest number, per capita with the surname Elliot.

David P. Elliot; Figured out why the Hermitage Castle is haunted. When they torn down the towers of Gorrenberry, and Hartsgrath, the spirit of The Cowie, and Kidd’s spirit of Kidd’s curse had nowhere to go, but to The Hermitage Castle. The family of Gorrenberry was banished from both kingdoms, and the family of Kidd’s became the line of the chieftain. One can imagine how well they may be getting along in The Hermitage Castle. At least I do not live as close to the Hermitage as you do.


MSE 9/20-21/2016 and 11/2/2016


These people of the Gorrenberry Farms;

Gorrenberry Jubilee Wood

Hermitage Castle – by Richard Oram,University of Stirling, Gorrenberry Jubilee Wood


Gorrenberry Estate 2011-2012. Introduction. Background. Gorrenberry is an ecological restoration project which aims to restore much of the biodiversity…

along with Clan Armstrong, and Buccleuch;“Buck”, Richard Scott, are trying to preserve the Borders nature of the land. They are concerned about maintaining the history and heritage of my families Scottish Homeland, and the Homeland of many borderers planted through out the world.

Many great Dand (Andrew) Ellot was banish from both nations ca 1608, moved on likely with Redheugh-Hamilton relation to Hamilton-Somerville lease of Tullykelter, Fermanagh, Ulster, Ireland (name became; Daniel Elliot) about 1610 as Anglia-Church of Ireland-Episcopalian, much like Buccleuch is today. Like being on border of England marrying English women, in Ireland likely married Irish women, so when the Irish Rebellion of  1642, they thought we were Irish.

Fought to reinstate King Charles II (Earl of Buccleuch beginnings), against Cromwell, and was imprison to Tutthill Field Prison, Westminster, London.

A seaman offered ca 1650 an indenture-ship plus working as a boatswain to the America Plantation.

But other Scots, and Quaker were Barbados as map shows;


The Red-leg Scot especially in St Andrew Parish with of the Anglia Church which is still prominent today in Barbados, and their ancestors still of Scotland like me still exist.

Of Gorrenberry, and the Elwald line recognize by Clan Armstrong, but not Redheugh-Eliott, so today, given my Scandinavian beginning as sharing similar values with the Armstrong, that is what I am. The vanquished Gorrenberry, is now apart of the unvanquished Armstrong.

Mark Elliott   6/27/2016

 I as an American, trying to stop a wind farm near his ancestral, land to promote the preservation, of an historical antiquity of UK a national antiquity the Hermtiage Castle is not like another American trying to stop a wind farm at a Scottish golf course.

Stopping wind farm at Hermitage Castle is difference than Golf Resort

Above photo also used  in BBC article;

In search of Donald Trump’s Scottish roots
9 March 2016
“It’s not fashionable, but in Lewis our main passion is a bloodsport… genealogy,” he went on. “You know, ‘Who are your people?’ So we’re very proud of the people who have an impact on the wider world.”

Stephen Smith is culture correspondent for BBC Newsnight. You can watch his report on iPlayer (UK only)

bloodsport…..genealogy; Those people of Lewis Island, Scotland are after my own heart.


Besides there are Elwood on Lewis Island, and I feel the name came from Martin Elwood (Ellot) of Braidley where Infins Windy Edge wind farm is to be built.


7/20/2016 MSE

Basically, my family moved up to borders, and defended the Hermitage Castle. The king of Scotland became the king of England, and Scotland, and he did not no longer need a border, so we were banished from both his kingdoms, and move on to the Ulster Plantation of Northern Ireland. Then we fought for Charles II, and ended indentured to Puritans in the English Plantation of America.

Now I live in New Mexico, and some people think we are of Mexico, but New Mexico, is the 46th as of 1912 state in the United States. Trying to defend the Hermitage Castle, because it is being turned over to the Chinese, and wondering if there are still any borderers left to keep on riding like our ancestors the reivers and defend their homeland The Borderlands?  8/13/2016  Mark Elliott

These guys taught me not to pronounce Hawick, not as hay-wick, but as hoik. Really do not want to admit I like these, guys, besides being a bunch of YES men, they wear black kilts without tartans. Guess they are a bunch of my ancestors, call borderers. They noted families leaving the borderlands.  Good that people from the old land are preserving heritage.

Hope they understand, that the son of Queen Mary of Scots, James, and his Middle Shires, granddad Dand (Andrew) Ellot (Elliot), was banished from both kingdoms,  for defending The Hermitage Castle,  and now I am now trying to defend the old fort from invasion by the Chinese.  MSE Sept 3, 2016


Profits sag 8% at Infinis Energy as wind drops, while Scottish nuclear power policy row hits Holyrood


9/19/2016 MSE

It is difficult for me being of The Religious Society of Friends to have to defended the fort like my ancestors before being banished by border pacification, trying to protect my United Kingdom Armstrong family from corporate industrial aggression, from a single, corporate hierarchical entity, and the  Chinese Government. One would think with their background and experience, that the North British Windpower NBW gang would like to defend their border homeland;

Christopher Wilkins of Redheugh, Michael Kerr of Ferniehirst (The 13th Marquess of Lothian), and Guy Innes-Ker, Cessford (Duke of Roxburghe) all been of North British Windpower NBW now EDF, and haven’t oppose Guy Hand’s Infinis Windy Edge wind farm.

Question is Traitor or Hero?

Mark Elliott 9/23/2016

One can just look at my 12 marker map, on Family Tree DNA, and see that I am Germanic-Scandinavian, with concentrations in Ulster and Scotland, where people who moved off the Borders at the time of Union went.


Being from the United States and descended from Elliot, of the Hawick region, with my writing I am border reiving from a foreign nation into the United Kingdom to help family. Redheugh, has MI6 links, so from with-in the United Kingdom, it is pretty well controled. Feel it may be difficult for MI6 to claim because I am member of The Society of Friends, that I belong to a terrorist group called Quakers.

Feel that Quakerism may have evolved out of the same self lead Scandinavian values of the people on The Borders. It seems that with today’s politicians, that to win office they take a lot of money from corporations, in the demeaning of each other and working inconflect, when decissions are made who do you thinks makes them?

Feel the average Joe would do better, and know the United Kingdom Armstrong share similar values with me and each other. So if the United Kingdom Armstrong decided to pitch-in and others which are self lead the reivers, a lot more would get done for families instead of corporations. With reivers spread in all parts of the world, this would become international, like it has become for the allied reiving Clan the Crozier.

You know I can not see how it can be stopped. Reivers do not have leaders, because they would have been killed off by one of the kingdoms, like the idea to protect the reiver’s fort The Hermitage Castle has been killed off by both the England and Scottish Kingdoms, and these are the kingdoms which got together, and banish reivers from the borderlands.

So if you pitch-in and support The Armstrong, you are following the reiver philosophy of the past, being self lead, by not  being dictated to by the corporate structure, by defending family and heritage.

Mark Stephen Elliott   9/25/2016

Family tried to soldier the fort the Hermitage, so there could be a Scotland but Jame Hepburn-Bothell, of the Hermitage, had an affair with Mary Queen of Scots, and they had a son James, which became king of a United Kingdom, and granddad Dand (alias for Andrew) Ellot was banish from both kingdoms in 1608.

From Ulster, we fought against Cromwell, guess the local Irish did not care for Cromwell also. We lost fighting for King Charles II, and the best we could get in 1650 was to work as a boatswain, aboard a BOAT TO AMERICA, with an agreed indenture ship to Cromwellian Puritans. Guess we took in about 1650 our Scottish heart with.

I guess I have to admit that I found my people in Hawick (pronounced hoik).

Mark Elliott 9/25/2016

Hawick’s lost The Auld Mid Raw. Is the world going to loose the Hermitage Castle to wind power?

The Auld Mid Raw.


Note; The Hawick dialog may be …people twenty miles (32 km) away find it impenetrable…, for someone like Alastair Moffat, from Kelso town, living near Shelkirk,


but it is not impenetrable to someone from Gallup, New Mexico, USA.

Bordering on………….

This life is but a shiftin’ scene,
=The world gaes circlin’ roon’,
And Time’s brought many changes
=To oor ain auld toon.
New fashions tak’ the causa croon,
=The auld gae to the wa’,
And we maun bid a last farewell
=To the auld Mid Raw.

What memories crood upon my brain,
=Familiar forms I see,
The auld sae decent and sae douce,
=The young sae fu’ o’ glee.
How mony buirdly chiels were born,
=And lasses trig and braw,
Aneath the pendit arches
=O’ the auld Mid Raw.

Oh! had thae rugged stanes a tongue
=What sermons they could preach.
What tales the mouldering rafters tell
=Had they the power o’ speech.
When news o’ Flodden’s day o’ dule
=Made dark baith hut and ha’,
And hapless widows mourned the brave
=In the auld Mid Raw.

What …………… Mid Raw.

In Winter nights when Johnnie Frost
=Hath sealed baith dub and mire,
The yoke-a-tulie rankit up,
=And doon the Loan like fire
The leader of the train got oft
=A crackit croon to claw,
Against the battered gable
=O’ the auld Mid Raw.

O ruthless Time; your hand has press’d
=Fu’ heavy on my brow,
And Left me little of the past
=That can give pleasure now.
But I wad gi’e the gathered gear
=That’s in yon lordly ha
To be a laddie racing roond
=The auld Mid Raw.

Away, away, fond Memory,
=Improvement’s march go on;
Why should one relic of the past
=Be left to stand alone?
Old age may sigh, though youth may laugh,
=As cherished ido’s fa’;
Farewell, Farewell to hearth and hame
=In the auld Mid Raw.

10/2&10/2016 MSE

james-thomson-hawick james-thomson-hawick


Words of the nineteenth century for preservation, of the Auld Mid Raw, hold truth in the twenty-first century for preservation of the Hermitage Castle.

10/7/2016 MSE



Many a Plantation family in a world the sun never sat on, were Born in the Borders.

Born In The Borders was commissioned by John Henderson to celebrate the opening of the Born In The Borders visitor centre at Lanton Mill, Jedburgh.

Lori Watson—Born in the Borders


Reiving shaped these shifting lands
From River Tweed to Solway Sands
Loyal to the Border bands
Strong hearts born in the borders
O the green valleys, o
Where the beech and barley grow
My heart swells at the sight of
The beauty that’s Born in the Borders
O the green valleys, o
The green valleys, o
There’s naught but care in every hand
That spins the yarn or ploughs the land
That deftly loves the making and
The craft that’s born in the borders
O the green valleys, o …
He catches her eye, she lights a flame
The world will never seem the same
They catch their breath and make their claim
A love that’s born in the bordersThere’s boldness in beauty, there’s laughter in love
Rich earth below (and) bright skies above
There’s crafting a life from the best you have
New beginnings are born in the borders
O the green valleys, o
Where the beech and barley grow
My heart swells at the sight of
The beauty that’s Born in the Borders
O the green valleys, o
Where Tweed and Teviot flow
My heart swells at the sight of
The beauty that’s Born in the Borders
O the green valleys, o
The green valleys, o

No more wind turbines in Borders Iain H. Scott

It Takes A Lot Of Concrete (To Make A Wind Farm Grow)

The Telegraph; UK Wind Farm Map

10/8/2016 MSE

Hawick ground zero for

Elliott are greatest number by far of all Elliot variants;


Elliot of Hawick;


Elliot concentration at Public Profiler


Given 1881 census data, shows for all Elliott, Elliot, Eliot, and Eliott, the greatest concentration, of the name per 100,000, is in the Liddesdale-Hawick region.


Douglas gives similar distribution;

Hope  the people of the United Kingdom will forgive, my family, from stretching the truth a bit. Many great granddad, Andrew (Dand), was accused in the slaughter of a Hugh Douglas, and Buccleuch hid him away. He had a son Clementis Hob (today’s language adopting uncle Clement Crozier’s Robert Elliott), lived in Gorrenberry, and his father went down to visit. Since it was a region of a lot of Douglas, the family made up a story of this brownie, they called Cowie. After Clementis Hob son Andrew (Dand) Ellot was banish and went onto the Ulster Plantation to Tullykelter, Fermanagh, and became Daniel Elliott. An Adam Elliot family south of the Hermitage Castle, in Schaws, kept the story of The Cowie of Gorrenberry going, and when he died off it was felt us Gorrenberry Elliot(t) were extinct, but R-U106 is unique for a Elliot(t). Daniel Elliot 1692 of Salem, Massachusetts, of the American Plantation,  left testimony that the accusers; girls were doing it out of sport. None of the Harvard educated judges seem to believe him. Do not recognize whether anyone believes me today, but I search for self. The Douglas are good folk and happy to have this close relation with them.








Robert Elwald (ie Ellot) family squire received land form Archibald Bell the Cat Douglas in late 15th century.


Double L and single T The Elliots of Minto and Wolfelee;



Eliott of Redheugh;

Single L and double T The Elliots of Stobs do dwell;




Armstrong of Langholm;

The army strand along the Liddel Water, of Debatable Land to the Irish border of Fermanagh, Ulster.


Border Armstrong became Fermanagh, Ulster Armstrong, and border Elliot became Fermanagh, Ulster Elliott.



Riding Clans in Ulster by Robert Bell



For the Liddel Water Little, surname adoption took place along the lines of the armystrand Armstrong.


Also Border Little (from Liddel) became Fermanagh, Ulster Little.

Also the Graham which had their towers, on the other (English) side of the borders from the Armstrong;




Though people of the Fairbairn family Y-DNA I-M253 took on surnames in the Debatable lands of Armstrong and Little, along the Scottish eastern border the people of the Fairbairn family took the surname Fairbairn.



Fairbairn and Hume in nearly same region.


Surname distribution shows localities, likely near where the greater part of the surname is adopted for Elliot, Eliott, and Armstrong.

Minto, Hawick, and Wolfelee are all near each other in the ground zeor region for the surname spelled Elliot.

USA Elliot Clan Society;



Forebear stats on Elliot surname;


What’s an Elliott of Clan Elliot?

Anguilla Island in the Caribbean for Cromwellian indentures;


Norfolk Island, a penal colony in the Pacific;


Mark Elliott   10/8/2016

Crozier, allied to Armstrong & Elliot;

crozier-uk-1 crozier-uk-2


Nixon, UK;


It’s been over four centuries. It is good to have the Armstrong, Elliot, Crozier, Nixon, Ker, Kerr, Scott, Douglas, Hume, Hunter,hunter-uk

Johnston(e), Maxwell, Burns, Bell, Thompson, Elwood, Ellwood, Forster, Rutherford, Young, Watson, Gill, Bailie, Dickson, Ruthwrford and supporting clans back together again, defending the Hermitage Castle from destruction of kingdoms foreign to the borderlands.












The name Eliot mainly French-Breton, but also of English-St Germain across the channel, has French Aliot origins. The border name Ellot, which became Elliot with and inserted “i“, always when properly spelled had a double “l“.

Distribution concentration for UK Eliot is;


Where Eliot is concentrated in Scotland the above concentration of Eliot is likely carried with the Breton French north, Eliot itself added an extra “l” to make Elliot influencing the spelling of Ellot around the time of the English Civil War, where Sir John Elliot died in the Tower of London ca 1650, by inserting an “i” into Ellot to make Elliot.

It should be noted that some of these surnames are extremely large compared to others, and it is felt for reiving; independent self leading with shared values, the Armstrong still have the numbers.

Should be noted that Hunter is occupational, and have various origins, but it is felt that the hunters and foresters both occupational and of the forest, like the elwald-ellot utilize the horn and a shield with  horns on it, are of English middle march clan. Because of a resettlement policy between the kingdoms of Scotland and England, nine Hunters were welcomed to Scotland in 1540 from Tyndale.

Forster, Rutherford, and Dickson;






10/14/2016 MSE

10/11&13/2016 MSE

Genealogical notes;

In Scotland, was having difficulties with the genealogy, because people who were proposing a wind farm; Infinis (sold to Muirhall), Windy Edge, on the Pre-Union, Bothwell-Braidlie lease, just to the east of Gorrenberry farms were distorting things.


Note; Led by Martin Elliot of Braidley, near the Hermitage Castle,…(rf The Border Reivers by Alistair Moffat page 226).

Gorrenberry was a grain (part) of Martin’s group.

Bothwell, James Hephburn husband to Mary Queen of Scots; lease land of Braidley, combined with lands of the Gorrenberry Ellot, after The Union they became part of a Buccleuch lordship of Gorrenberry.

If there is any questions whether I know these guys including Buccleuch; Richard Scott; the following will give you the understanding why I prefer those notorious Armstrong like Fiona.

These guys;

Christopher Wilkins of Redheugh, Michael Kerr of Ferniehirst (The 13th Marquess of Lothian), and Guy Innes-Ker of Cessford (Duke of Roxburghe) all been of North British Windpower NBW, did not oppose Guy Hand’s Infinis, of which the Armstrong in their Trust did;



Crosar (Crozier), Grame (Graham), and Forstar (Forster) listed.

On 20th September, 1484, Angus (Archibald “Bell the Cat” Douglas fifth earl of Angus) again executed a precept directed to “Walter Scot de Edshan (of Edschaw, son of David Scot of Buccleuch), Radulpho Ker, fratri (brother) Wateri (Walter) de Cesfurd (Walter Ker of Cessford, and brother Radulpho, a Scandinavian name like Ralph or Rudolph, Kerr likely of recently built Ferniehirst) et (and) Willielmo (William) Elwaldo (Elwald-Ellot) de goranbery (Gorrenberry)” to infeft (in the act of receiving lands) Robert Elwald of the Redheuch (Redheugh) in the 20 merk lands of Over and Nether (Under), “Larrostane” (Larriston)

10/13/2016 M.S. Elliott


horsleyhill-gorrenberry-larriston-line meg-helen-kidd-3  slaughter-of-hassidene-1 slaughter-of-hassidene-2

Note; That the family line of Horsleyhill is of Larriston and Gorrenberry. Gilbert of Redheugh, family to become Stobs was the responsibility of Gavin of Gorrenberry, and Jean Scot sister to Buccleuch, but widow to Robert of Redheugh. William is which would be first of Larriston, then of Hartsgrath of lands listed in sasine/deeds when Robert Elwald was infefted with lands of Redheugh, Hartsgrath, and Over and Nether Larristion.
So the children to the mitress of Robet of Redheugh brother to Martion, included a William of Lariton, a Gilbert of Larriston to become of Stobs then Redheugh, a Margaret named after Margaret Kidd, and today’s Redheugh of the Eliott Stobs line is a Margaret also, and does not have to fear Kidd’s curse.
In the slaughter of David Scot of Hassendeen a Scot rode with the Elliot and was decapitated. Archibald Elliot, brother to Gavin, married to Jean Scot the sister of Buccleuch lived because he was said to be to young. It should be noted that the judge is Buccleuch, and the jury for the prosecution is made up of a lot of Scot, and the jury for the defense is made up of a lot of Douglas. Though family was accused in the slaughter of a Hugh Douglas, it is difficult to be against the Douglas family with all the support they have given us, and the Scott family for their support also.


10/15/2016 MSE

Onto Ulster ‘We Ride’;

Iain Scott and David Chapman.

Scott+Chapman=Scocha (pronounced Scotia);


My likeness Germanic-Danish Y-DNA is more like Chapman;



Rich Rucker, Clan Armstrong DNA, Question

Migrating to Liddesdale.

SCOCHA-And We Ride;

Song endorsed by;

Clementis Hob and his father The Cowie of Gorrenberry.

From song; This poor land was yours and mine long before they ever drew the (border) line.

Note; line divided the border families, but the borderlands was a self governing nation, and not of the kingdoms.


Border Reivers; The ancestors of many Ulster Scots

UK Armstrong, with Buccleuch, Kinmont & Gorrenberry what more?

Sheep stealers from the north of England’: the Riding Clans in Ulster by Robert Bell

Scottish’s Borders Middle March Clan Allies; Armstrong, Elliott, Crozier, and Nixon.

In Fermanagh, Ulster Ireland, today, and into Plantation’s past.

Today, the only trace of them in the popular consciousness is that many by the name of Armstrong or Elliott, Graham, Johnston or Bell are dimly aware,………….

10/16/2016 MSE

Rector of St Andrews;

The Moffat/BritainsDNA saga

It should be noted that the Armstrong, Elliot(t) and Fairbairn have a tendency of using the same forenames;


A scientist with the same name of my deceased brother Robert (Bob), a DNA  Daniel Elliot group specialist R.P. Elliot, and a foremost historian on the Liddesdale region a writer of harp music Robert Bruce Armstrong; well a scientist and with knowledge of Armstrong genealogical history, of St Andrews University a Robert (Bob) Armstrong came up with this;

The Armstrong Family and its Possible Flemish Origins

Hope it will not be held, against me with my self sponsorship of my genealogical website like my father Loren S. Elliott before me did somewhat in his own publications with an IBM PC compatible and his own publication using PC DOS, on a dot-matrix printer. Today I get to utilize the internet.

Rector of St Andrew in 1418 of John Elwald  which came out in support of pope Martin V, along with a William Croyser (Crozier/Crosser);


is felt to be a relative of mine. Hope it is not held against me be related to a rector of St Andrews. Scotland wanted its own University, and previous to St Andrews John Elwald was educated in France, (a lot of Douglas which were educated in France and died there), then educated in the foreign nation of England at a school called Oxford.

John Elwald did not like being rector, and the provost, Bothell (near Glasgow) an Archibald Douglas, got him a Canon of Glasgow, of the Shelkirk Regis, then he moved on towards the Debatable Land about in 1423, and became rector of Kirkandrews (church of St Andrews), of the Ninian diocese of Whithorne. This was previous to the Grahams placing their peel tower there. It seems like John Elwald liked it near this Debatable land as opposed to the poorer job of being rector of St Andrews. Would not wish it on anybody.
Mark Elliott 10/16/2016

Who killed Cessford ca 1525;

About the time of Gilnokockie; Johnnie Armstrong.
And the Archbishop of Glasgow’s, Curse on Reviers.

Was not Gilbert of Stobs, like Walter Scot said;


Likely said to ally Stobs (Redheugh) with Buccleuch.


Was not James Ellot, like Arthur Eliot past chief of Stobs/Redheugh said  because family family spelled their name Elwald in 1525.


But likely the same James Ellot with properly recorded name of James Elwald, by Robert Bruce Armstrong in his History of Liddesdale;


It is felt that James Elwald, and Walter Scott of Branxholme, are of a different criminal case which they were trying to kill James V in 1526, before he hung by betrayal Johnnie Armstrong of Gilnockie.

The criminal case Slaughter of the Laire of Cesford, does not contain names Elwald (Ellot/Elliot) or Scot(t).

10/23/2016 MSE

INFINIS (sold to Muirhall)


Chapter 9: Archaeology and Cultural Heritage
Page 9-1
Windy Edge Wind Farm
Environmental Statement

9.4.8 Records of medieval activity focus mainly on settlement and agriculture amongst (among) the valleys within the lower reaches of the Inner Study Area and bordering its edges. They are dominated by Hermitage Castle which sits at the centre (center) of an extensive landscape of related features. The castle was founded in the 13th century with the present structure dating from the 14th to 16th century and is both a Scheduled Monument and a Listed Building (Figure 9.2: SM90161). It is regarded as one of the finest castles in the Borders, illustrating key developments in defensive architecture and had a prominent place in border conflicts throughout its occupation. In addition, it has significant associations with key characters in Scottish history, including Mary Queen of Scots, and also with the romanticising (romanticizing) of the Borders’ historic sites by Sir Walter Scott and JMW Turner in the early 19th century.
9.4.9 Features associated with the castle include a complex of earthworks west of the present castle, which may relate to an earlier castle or moated site, a chapel, also to the west, and a deer park on the hillside above the castle, to its north. The boundary of the park is represented by a feature known as the White Dyke (Figure 9.2: SBC-HER 3030147 & 3030065). The White Dyke was identified as a park boundary by the RCAHMS Liddesdale survey and recorded as stopping 200 m east of the Inner Study Area boundary and no westwards continuation was recorded. As any projected westwards continuation of the boundary might continue up to the Inner Study Area boundary, perhaps utilising (utilizing) the line of the Day Sike as part of the boundary circuit, this area of the Inner Study Area was subject to detailed walkover. Although some features were located in this part of the Inner Study Area, no features similar in character to the White Dyke were found. The features within this area consist of a small enclosure containing rig and furrow, two sections of bank, a possible small platform and several areas of quarrying (Figure 9.1: A4, A5, A6, A7 & A8). Most of these features are likely to be of medieval or early post-medieval date.
9.4.10 The medieval settlement of Sundhope (Figure 9.1: A14) lies mostly outwith the Inner Study Area, to the north-east of the present farmstead of the same name. Several extensive areas of pre-improvement settlement are visible as earthworks to the south and east of the present farm buildings, implying this settlement was probably more extensive than a single farmstead during the medieval period and may perhaps be better regarded as a clachan or township.
9.4.11 Additional features associated with pre-improvement settlement and land-use were recorded within the Inner Study Area during the walkover and from analysis of aerial photography. These consist of banks and enclosures, many containing rig and furrow (Figure 9.1: A1, A2 & A3), as well as two possible shieling sites (Figure 9.1: A9 & A15). Extensive remains of a pre-improvement landscape (Figure 9.1: A3) previously survived on Balderston Hill, north of Braidlie. The features on Balderston Hill were recorded from aerial photographs taken in 1948 and appear to have been largely plough-levelled since this date as few earthworks are visible on current aerial photography and no earthworks were observed in this area during the walkover survey.
9.4.12 The HER also records two drove routes of probable medieval origin running through the Inner Study Area (Figure 9.1: A12 & A16). These connect the valleys south of the Inner Study Area, via the uplands, to the valley of the Allan Water at the northern edge of the Middle Study Area; one (A12) runs through the centre (center) of the Inner Study Area near the Sundhope Burn, whilst the other (A16) is located in an area of commercial forestry in the eastern part of the site near Whitrope Burn.

One can see how Braidlie near where INFINIS  (now Muirhall) the Windy Edge (Braidlie-Hermitage Castle) wind farm is planned for. Though Windy Edge is the name of the wind farm, one would think that a large corporation such as INFINIS in their own report since the name of their wind farm is Windy Edge they would have at least a paragraph on it, and more on Braidlie which is very much closer to the planned location of the Windy Edge wind farm.

1/1/2017 MSE

Though I have found the Blaeu map from 1654 easier to read the labels on, decided to provide JACOBS map of Infinis (Muirhall) Windy Edge wind farm, and provide some label, so the map reader can understand where the wind farm is at.

4/30/2017 MSE
0:34 View of turbine site from B6399 Newcastleton – Hawick.

0:34 Site of 9 turbines from B6399 near Whitropefoot

0:41 Site of turbines viewed from Castleton Cemetery, B6357

7/20/2017 MSE   Muirhall revisions 10/03/2017 MSE

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Armstrong Fairbairn I-M253 Y-DNA


After answering Rich Rucker question, am probably kicked way out of the FTDNA Armstrong project. Those Armstrong DNA guys likely do not want anything to do with me. Hopefully Fiona will forward.

Both the Armstrong and Elwald would use the Ninian name as a forename, and the pope came back on St Ninian day. There is even a St Ninian tartan which looks something like your Armstrong tartan. St Ninian, converted those Pictish Armstrong to Christianity. Do not know how well it took though. Was told when someone knocked on a door in old Liddesdale an asked if there were in Christians in there, they were told we’s Armstrang and Ellot.

The Little from Liddel, and Armstrong, most from Armystrand (army strand), Armistrang (strong army) along Liddel Water, and that is where the Picts, St Ninian of Whitethorne diocese converted to Christianity, and into northeast Scottland, where the Declaration of Abroath was signed, north of the Scandianavian Scottish Saint Andrews.

Fairbairn, is of the Germanic Bear family, of Burn, Barnes, Borne, Bourne, and many others, but likely of Steward Fairbairn, and the Y-DNA feel he carried was M-I253, because today about three forths of the family of Fairbairn carries this DNA.

Three forths of the family of Gresham, and also for the family of Scarborough carries my first twelve markers. Likely the quarter which does not match for over a period of eight centuries is because of adoption and Non Parental Events NPE.

Croyland near the Barony of Bourne (the bear). Lincolnshire, County, where it is felt the Danish Bourne family lived, near the family of Elwald of Croyland, with bones of St/King Elwald in Hexam Abbey. There was also a Viking named Ulf and The Horn of Ulf (meaning wolf), is stored in York, and I use it for a background to represent the geological horn of Gorrenberry.

Though it is felt that the Danish Bourne family with offspring, Fairbairn (fair skin Danish male), and Osborne (white shin Danish male), and other bear, Barnes, Burn, and etc. the Fairbairn are the family which is important to the Armstrong because they went north. The Barony of the Bourne, besides lands near the Elwald of Croyland, included land of Gresham near the Elwald of Bec, and Oulton in Norfolk, where my Y-DNA arrived as Anglo-Danes, and N&S Cave-Cottingham, where a William Elwald settled in the region of the Estutville-Wake estates. The land also owned by the Estuteville-Wake family of the land of Nicolas Stuteville Forrest, and The Mote/Moat, where Liddel Strength Castle was built and where latter the Graham family built a peel tower. They also had peels at Kirkandrews but after the church (kirk) of St Andrews of St Ninian’s Whitethorne diocese was abandoned the one which in 1423 a John Elwald which once rector in 1418 St. Andrews University, the first College of Scotland. Also Grahams had a peel at Netherbye (under by), a companion to Canonbye (canopy/upper/over by), which with no peel, likely unlike the peels of the Graham on the English side, Canonbye was considered on the Scottish side.

Clan Fairbairn though today about tenth the numbers of the Armstrong, you will find if you Google “Clan Fairbairn” and go to images one would see the Fairbairn, likely more of Steward Fairbairn DNA seems to support my ideas strongly.

Mark Elliott 5/29/2016

Rich Rucker, Clan Armstrong DNA, Question

I-M253 Distribution;


Armstrong FTDNA I-M253;

FTDNA Armstrong I-M253

Armstrong GBname distribution 1881;

Armstrong GBname distribution 1881

Armstrong GBname statistics;

Armstrong GBname statistics

Fairbairn of I-M253 DNA

Fairbairn GBname distribution 1881;

Fairbairn GBname distribution 1881

Fairbairn GBname statistics;

Fairbairn GBname statistics


Osborn Osborne I-M253 Y-DNA

Osborn FTDNA I-M253

Osborn/Osborne (Danes with white skin, sometimes referred to as a Polar Bear) is felt to mainly enter into Anglia then migrate towards the west-southwest. It is felt that part of the I-M253 migrated north with the people of the Fairbairn (Danes with fair skin, sometimes referred to as a Fairy Bear).

Barony of Bourne the Danish Bear

Osborn GBname statistics Osborn GBnames distribution 1881

Osborne GBname statisticsOsborne GBname distribution 1881

Mark S. Elliott   5/29/2016

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Barony of Bourne the Danish Bear


Genealogy Geographic Surname DNA Elliot

It is found that for Gresham (Grisham & Grissom), Cave (North& South), and Scarborough the these are localites today on the North Sea of England, which previous to England ca 1320, the land in these regions was own by the Stuteville family. The Stuteville family own land in the Barony of Bourne (Dannish for bear), about 10mi/16km southeast of Grantham formally Graham. The border Graham are found with towersin the Debateble lands of the Stuteville family, that of Nicholas Stuteville’s forest, an their Liddle Strenght Castle (The Mote/Moat). Grisham (Grisham and Grissom), Cave of de Cave, married to a Stuteville, and Scarborough, of the first marker a 14, in a strong group share the next twelve markers, indicating the same DNA grouping pre-surname, shared the Gresham-Cave-Scarbourgh land of the Stuteville family.

Referrences in the following graphics;

Grisham Elwald

Wake Stuteville Bourne, Lincoln Co Scarborough Caste, Cottingham Co, York, Liddel StrengthNic of Forest in Liddel father of Robt (2)Nic of Forest in Liddel father of Robt (3)Wake Stuteville Bourne, Lincoln Co Scarborough Caste, Cottingham Co, York, Liddel Strength

Scarborough Castle

Stuteville own land of Gresham, of N&S Cave and married Cave, and of Scarborough, at the time which a group liven on or near Stuteville, land descended from the same father would  adopt their names from their respective localities of Gresham, Cave and Scarborough.

Migrating  towards Nicolas Stuteville’s forest and castle The Mote/Moat.



Mark S. Elliott 4/24/2016

Gresham-Grisham-Grissam FTDA;

Gresham Grisham Gissom DNA

Scarborough FTDA;

Scarborough 12 marker match ups

Showing that Gresham and Scarborough are named from their respective localities in the UK, and pre-surname likely of land of the same owner de Stuteville family.

Mark S. Elliott 4/28/2016

Barony of Borne (the Danish Bear)

Barony of Bourne, which in Danish means bear, known to be a progeny of the Armstrong; the Bourne, fair skin Fairbourne, light or white skin Osbourne, the Bourne family, in which many of the Danish aspect of Fairbairn, evolved to the name Armstrong. Barony of Bourne, own lands of Gresham, Cave, Scarborough, on the North Sea along with Liddel Strength Castle; The Mote, in the Debatable lands region, on and previous to the English-Scottish Border. The Cave, Wake and Stutville were related by marriage, and people of the same Y-DNA base previously to acquiring surnames lived at these respective localities, and acquired the surname of the locality they lived at, with my surname it was the son of and Elfwald and the surname became Elwald. Utilizing Y-DNA twelve mark matches was able to find relation to people named after these localities, and was able to find the family being near Gresham.

Barony of Bourne, and Croyland map

Mark Elliott 4/28/2016

Of in 1 off in 25 from Germany, and 2 off in 25 between Bec, Norfolk, and Rimington, now Lancashire.

Quebbemann, of Germany one marker off in 25;

1 in 25 Quebbemann (1) 1 in 25 Quebbemann (2)

Brook 2 off in 25 on migratory pathway between Norfolk, and today’s Lancashire.

2 in 25 Brook (1) 2 in 25 Brook (2)

Gledhill 2 off in 25 on migratory pathway between Norfolk, and today’s Lancashire.

2in 25 for Gedhill (1) 2in 25 for Gedhill (2) 2in 25 for Gedhill (3)

MSE  4/28/2016

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What’s an Elliott of Clan Elliot?

An Elliot is of two basic origins;

That of Breton, and other of Proto-Germanic, seeded into the Scottish borders, as given by the basic Elliot, Elliott, Eliot, and Eliott poem. As shown by;

The father and grandmother of the clan chief;



From site; Origin of Name Elliot: from Old English, Elwold.

Want to apologize to above site, if language is changed from outside source to Eliot of Aliot, for the Breton/St German family, with deletion of; Origin of Name Elliot: from Old English, Elwold, because of the duality of origins this given by above site is true also.

It is likely because the husband of the Redheugh-Stobs family the chieftain is of North British Windpower NBW that MI6 techniques may be utilize to destort the family of Elliott history, so an Infinis Windy Edge wind farm can be built between my homeland of Gorrenberry and The Hermitage Castle.

Google of; North British Windpower NBW

Two Crests; Scottish Arms of the Elwald, and English Arms of the Aliot;



Elliott is by far the most used name;


Concentration of Elliott, is in the penal colony of Northfolk Island,


For Elliot; Anguilla, is in the region which Cromwellian, indentures; Scottish red-leg were sent at time of English Civil War ca 1650.


Elwald (Scottish pre Ellot), Ellot (Scottish pre Elliot), Eliot (English, French), Elliot (Scottish), Ellet (Wales), Elliott (who knows but most likely overseas), Eliott (Stobs), and Ellwood (Cumberland, England).

Elliot Eliott Eliot Elliott poem

Clan Elliot of Germany in their Wikipedia;

German Elliot poem

The double L and single T Descent from Minto and Wolflee, The double T and single L Mark the old race in Stobs that dwell. The single L and single T The Eliots of St Germains be, But double T and double L, Who they are nobody can tell.

Robert Bell dichtete in “The Book of Scots-Irish Family Names” hinzu: “For double L and double T, the Scots should look across the sea!”

Clan Elliot of the USA in their genealogical section;

The main forms of the name appear in an old rhyme:

The double L and single T
Descend from Minto and Wolflee,

The double T and single L
Mark the old race in Stobs that dwell,

The single L and single T
The Eliots of St. Germains be,

But double T and double L
Who they are, nobody can tell.

Elliot USA poem

Clan Elliot of Australia;

Australian Elliot poem

Legend has it that the extra “t” in Eliott arose when a branch of the Eliotts adopted Christianity. The “t” was in reality meant to be a cross. The differences in spelling can be distinguished in this rhyme:

The double L and single T
Descent from Minto and Wolflee, (Elliot)
The double T and single L
Mark the old race in Stobs that dwell.
The single L and single T
The Eliots of St Germains be,
But double T and double L,
Who they are nobody can tell.





Elliot from Hawick, Scotland to Elliott of Fermanagh, Ulster, Ireland.


Robert Bell in “The Book of Scots-Irish Family Names” adds: “For double L and double T, the Scots should look across the sea!” He pointed out that 71 of 76 births of children by that name in Ireland in 1890 spelt it “Elliott.” Elliot(t)s emigrated or were sent to Ireland in the early 17th century after the unification of the English and Scottish crowns.

Forebear in Descriptive Writing;

forebears Elliot Poem

among Eliots (all spellings) is Celtic-Brittonic by Keith Elliot Hunter is basically correct since the single “l” and single “t”  the Eliot spelling are of St. German, an are basically Celtic-Brittonic.

Kieth Elliot Hunter among Eliots all spelling is Celtic-Britonic

Search engine bias by adding a 2 to elliot;

search engine Elliot history bias by adding a 2


and see for yourself.

QuintusPentillus of Clan Eliott Wikipedia linking to;

Can anyone figure out who QuintusPentillus is?

The elliot2 two bias is in Reiver DNA also;

Border Reivers with 2 bias

MSE  1/14/2016

It should be noted;

Changed Elliot history

Try links;

Of above;

Link provided by above;

Now link from giving today’s modified history;

MSE   4/15/2016

One will find excellent information on the Breton Eliot, with the following link;

In accordance, to the previous Elliot Clan Chief; Arthur Eliott, father of the present, the name derived from Elwald-Elwold became Ellot, then about ca 1650 and “i” has the same basic correctness of Keith Elliot Hunter’s Celtic-Briton names deriving from Eliot, which in about 1650 the Elliot of Ellot became a derivative of this name also.

It is excellent that Keith Elliot has been able to establish the Cletic-Britain Eliot evolved names which the Elwald-Ellot, family of Proto-Germanic Anglo-Danish name origin adopted around 1650 and became established with it’s double “l” and single “t” of it’s originator Ellot as Elliot about 1650.

among Eliots (all spellings) is Celtic-Britonic Keith Elliot Hunter

The name Eliot is derived from barony naming of William de (of) Aliot from a town in southern France, in accordance to the Eliot of southern England;


Aliot surname distribution


Then the spelling evolved from Aliot to Eliot, where Eliot became Breton and St Germain;

Like the previous clan chief  Arthor Eliott quoting. “As the old verse has it:” and concurring with Clan Elliot of Germany, USA, and Australia, plus those around the world; “Single L and single T, The Eliots of St. Germains be;”

Eliot European distributionEliot surname distribution map


It is felt that by adding a t to Elliot to make Elliott gives distribution of;


The above shows out of the borderland into Ulster a t was added to Elliot to make Elliott, and it is felt this happened to the other Plantation of England with the border name Elliot, it became Elliott.


In above PDF over concepts were being developed, and errors in interpretation were made. Like chief not being a chief but a location on a shield. The overall basic concepts which are consistent to today’s outcomes are still there.

Though today, the number of Eliot is extremely low compared to the number of Elliott around the world, shown in frequency levels above. It’s evolution by addition of a l and/or a t evolved all the spelling of the four names in the poem of Eliot, Elliot, Eliott, and Elliott. This started with William de Aliot, centuries before, the Anglo-Danish name of Elwald (Elwold), evolved into Ellot, and became the Breton (Celtic-Briton) name, never having a single “L”, but try to retain it’s double “L” and single “T” spelling with many of the UK, and English Plantations around the world adding an extra “T”. By inserting the “i” it has created great confusion among the clan as Arthur Eliott has stated around 1650, by further adding to the confusion an extra “T” was added.

Arthur Eliott of Stobs (Redheugh), and Robert Bell of Ulster, have noted that those Elliot/Elliott overseas are mainly of Scottish descent. Most of the Scots likely of Scots-Irish descent, lived previously in the Ulster Plantation of Northern Ireland. Ulster was used as a stepping stone to younger English Plantations such as America, the Pacific, and many others in which the sun would not set on the English Empire.

Proto-Germanic R-U106 haplogroup DNA Elwald-Elliot

An Elliot defends The Hermitage Castle, and supports their ally The Armstrong.

Elliot and Elliott utilize similar fore-naming as the Armstrong and Fairbairn;


Infinis Windy Edge Wind Farm proposed in the vicinity of The Hermitage Castle, and Clan Armstrong has opposed the building of this wind farm that will bring industrial destruction to the environment of The Hermitage Castle.

True border Elliot’s will support their ally the Armstrong, and defend The Hermitage Castle from destruction. Today of industrial destruction is being brought to the  natural surrounding of the Hermitage Castle.

Homeplace Clan Elliot tee

Mark S. Elliott     3/7/2016

Hermitage Castle’s Infinis’ Windy Edge

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Crozier Elliot censorship

Clan Crozier  has been censored and deleted from Wikipedia though it had a lot of activity.

Wiki Clan Crozier stats

Information contained in;

Clan Crozier

As compared to the Wikipedia site which had activity;

Clan Eliott stats1

The peaks and most of the activity was caused by censored information to the Clan Eliott site of;

Clan Elliot

Composed by Mark S. Elliott, but like Wikipedia article Clan Crozier, the Clan Elliot information was also censored from the Clan Eliott site.

Why Censored?

of censorship;

If historians, can not use deeds (sasine) in the history, then what are they using?


Valid reference on graphic;


Map verifies the Lariston lands of Redheugh;


Because the deed of Redheugh, Lariston, Hartsgarth and other; to the Clan Elliot chief’s land is old does not make it invalid.

Mark Elliott   1/12/2016

Search engine bias by adding a 2 to elliot;

search engine Elliot history bias by adding a 2


and see for yourself.

QuintusPentillus of Clan Eliott Wikipedia linking to;

Can anyone figure out who QuintusPentillus is?

MSE  1/14/2016

Can’t be the work of MI6NBW, can it?

North British Windpower NBW Google image search

MSE  1/15/2016

Chiefs Kerr Elliot, & Cessford (Duke of Roxborghe)

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Clan Crozier


Clan Crozier 1-6  Clan Crozier 7-13

Clan Crozier (crosier, croser, cros, etc.) is one of
the border reiving clans of Scotland, along with the
Armstrongs, Elliots, and Nixons. Some sources cite the
surname as a sept of the Armstrong clan, but the Scottish
Parliamentin 1587 identified the Croziers as a middle
march clan.[1]

An armigerous clan is a clan without a chief, and a sept is
a clan which follows a chief. So an armigerous clan like
Clan Armstrong, since it does not have a chief, does not
have septs. Clan Crozier, not having a chief by the
Lord Lyon King of Arms, is an armigerous clan allied with the
far more populous Clan Armstrong.

1 Name evolution
Croyser, Croiser, Crosier, Crozier.
Many of the earlier forms of the name were of Croyser or
Crosier (of Cros), had a common English language switch
of an “y” for an “i”. The name basically was Croyser then
Croiser, which means cross; one who lives near or bears

Croyser or Crosier has Old French origins, of Roman
Christianity the name Croyser, then Croiser has also
Old Scottish influence evolved from the Old French of,
Croice, Crois(e, n. Also: croyce, croys(e). [ME. croice,
croyce, crois, croys, croyz (14–15th c.), OF. crois, croiz.
Cf. Croce n.1] An earlier form of the word, which is croy
for the Croyser name; Cro, Croy, n.1 Sc. and Ir. Gaelic
cró fold, hut, Icel. kró sheepfold. Latinized as croa, croya
(12th c.).[3]
The meaning referring to hut, which developed the name
Croyser is insignificant in most of England where the
name is based on cross, but given the popularity of the
name in Yorkshire (York Mayor John Croser 1447)
with variants in Sweden, it is felt by people of Scandinavian
origins migrating to what is now Scotland, likely
applied the meaning of hut to Croyser that of hut builder.
The Croziers came from Normandy in 1066 with
William the Conqueror. Through the years, some moved northward
to the southern areas of Scotland where they became
established as a Border Clan. According to Scots
Kith and Kin,[5] Clan Crozier was in Liddesdale in the
14th Century.[6]
Example of Tyndale to Liddesdale-Treviotdale movement;
Clemy and John Croser (Crosier-Crozier), English
Tyndale Rebels resettled to Liddesdale-Teviotdale Scotland
with Clemy Croser, and Robyn (son of Rob of Redheugh)
Elwald, in 1540.[7][4]

 William le Gros Earl of Yorkshire (Count of Aumale)
died 1179 could easily be the influence of
the Croyser of today’s border region being of Yorkshire.
Name similarities exist between, Le Crosand Le Gros and today’s Crozier and Grozier surnames.
William le Gros, owned Scarborough Castle.Borough means fort and is symbolized on theshield of Scarborough. Scarborough is of AngloSaxonorigins, and people with the surname Scarborough
are known to be from Scarborough. The
Y-DNA of the people named Scarborough was used
to locate an entry point into the British Isles, of
an Elfwald/Elwald.[8]

Name version of Crozier with
a G; Grosar, Grosars, Grossars (RB Armstrong),
Gros, and Grozier, which OCR (optical character
recognition), sometimes read the upper case C as
a G, is questioned if the document is handwritten,
that it may have been transcribed in the past with
a C transcribed as a G. William le Gros, Count of
Aumale, was a powerful Anglo-Norman baron and
grand-nephew of William the Conqueror.

2 Name distribution
For the name Crozier a form of Crosier, one finds in YDNA

Family Tree DNA; Crozier and in the
family origins surname distribution maps that the name
Crozier concentrates itself along the Scottish Border and
Northern Ireland.[19]

Crozier-surname-distribution (1)
The counties in the British Isleswhich have the highest frequency of the name Crozier are Roxburghshire, which contains, Liddesdale, in Scotland,and Fermanagh, Ulster, Ireland.[20]
There is a smaller distribution,in southern England, and this could representwhat became Crozier coming from France. It should be
noted, of 13 Crozier tested Y-DNA, 11 are M-269, there
are two of the unique R-CTS11874 a William Crozier, of
Northern, Ireland and a John Crosier of Boston. There
were other listed in the Family Tree SNP[21]


one of each Kennedy, Loy, and Beckel (Germany). In Public Profiler
of World Names[22]
Loy shows Germany-YorkshireScotland-Northern
Ireland, Kennedy shows Scotland and
Northern Ireland, and Bickel shows Germany. With the
locality of the Crozier, as being Border/Ulster Scots,
this is indicative of Germanic-Danish Anglo migration.
Though the name Crozier of Le Cros in southern France,
and the name Eliot of Aliot in southern France, with
William Le Gros (Gros like Cros mainly of S France),
and William de Aliot[24] linked to William the Conqueror, in close proximity, in Liddesdale and Fermanagh,

it can be concluded that these families are of basically of
similar origins. Though surname acquisition has a French
Norman influence, their Scottish, Scandinavian origins is
more like their shared ally the Armstrong.[23]

2.1 Cros Cross
Surname by; World Family Public Profiler, shows the Surname
Cros, is more concentrated around, Le Cros in
southern France, but when an “s” is added to make Cross
the name distribution is of England, not Scotland. Similar
results are found with de Aliot, being of southern
France, but when the “A” is changed to an “E” then the
name becomes Eliot of England, but not of Scotland.
Cross DNA; Family Tree DNA, and World Family results
are showing a large proportion, but not being as large
as for Crozier as being
R1b-M269, Y-DNA.[26] [27][25]

3 Historical distribution
It is found that the American family of Crozier descended
from the Croyser Clan, found on the banks of the (upper)
Liddel, in the Scottish borderlands[28]
at Riccarton, and Hudshouse.
In the sixteenth century the Crosars (Crozier) from upper
Liddesdale to Teviotdale, then onto Fermanagh,
Ulster, Ireland.

3.1 Riccarton


Riccarton Liddesdale history

History of the Border Counties: (Roxburgh, Selkirk, Peebles) By Sir George Douglas, Sir George Brisbane

Locus Crozier; IDs valley of Liddesdale, by locus of Crozier.

In R. B. Armstrong’s History of Liddesdale, there is a
record of a Locus Croyser, but the word locus means locality,
and is listed under Valleys of Liddesdale in 1376,

giving the location of a valley of Liddesdale being where
the people referred to as Croyser lived.
Today this valley is believed to be called Riccarton Burn.
The spelling in William Croyser and Simon le Croyser
near Croyland, and in “locus Croyser” is consistent in the
fourteenth century, which strongly shows that the name
which originates in the Valley (locus/locality of a valley
in Liddesdale in 1376 by where the Croyser are living)
of the Croyser, originated in the Croyland region.
This valley now Riccarton Burn is where for ScottishIrish
Croyser (Crozier) surname adoption takes place. It
is guarded by the tower of the Croziers, known as Riccarton
Tower,[29] [30]

Surname seeding is when a surname is brought into a
region, and those without a surname adopt it. Among the
Navajo Native Americans a missionary from the midwest
United States brought the Elliott name to the Navajo
people. At the time of surname adoption a family of
Navajos took on the surname Elliott. Now there is a line
of Navajo Elliotts.

Surnames, showing popularity in Yorkshire; Croyser and
Elwald, though with many deviations which from these
standard spellings (norm given the centuries), developed
in today’s England near the beginning of the twelfth century,
and were brought into the north, previous to the
Declaration of Arbroath ca1320, where Croyser evolve
into Croiser, Crosier, lastly Crozier, and Elwald evolved into Ellot, Elliot, and some cases Elliott.
In the 14th century the name William (like William the
Conqueror) Croyser, is found in Bedford, County, in an
area not to far from Croyland. In the 13th Century the
name Elwald (i.e. Elliot) is found in the region of Rye
(Johannes (John) Elwold (Elwald) de (of) Rya (Rye).
ca1230 [31]), near where the Battle of Hastings took place,
and the Kerr which came to the borderland are said to be
from Normany. So it is felt a seed carrying the name
Croyser, came to the Valley of the Croyser, now Riccarton
Burn, in Liddesdale. Riccarton/Riccarton Mill
(Rickerton, forms of Richardtown) second home of the
Redheugh Ellot (Elliot) is near Larriston/Over&Nether
Laristown. [32] [33]


Riccarton Tower – Canmore

Riccarton, mistakenly Rakestonleis, but is Caddroun Tower.


Helcaldenburne is Caddroun Burn (Tower) where Rakestonleis
is of William Crosier in 1590.
In the 1376 Rent Roll were Ricardtoun superior, and Ricardtoun
inferior, and in 1541 rent rolls of Liddesdale
were Ricardtoncleuch, Over (superior) Riccarton (higher
in elevation), and Richardtoun, Nether (inferior) Riccarton
(lower in elevation).


Ricardtoun/R. Cleuch Crosar and Elwald
In Nether Riccarton Liddesdale 1541 rent rolls, was tenanted
by Martin Crosar, Patrick Crosar, Rolland Elwald
(i.e. Elliot), and William Elwald, and Over (upper) Riccarton was held by two Crosar farms. In 1576
an Andrew “Dande” Crosar was from Ricardtouncleuch.
In 1590 was a Will Croser of Ryckerton (also spelled
Rickerton).[34] [35] [36] [37]


Crozier and Ellot in Upper Liddesdale Blaeu 1654 map
At time Robert Elwald received land of 1484 a William
Gladstanis, are listed with the landholders, and John and
Quinton Crosar, are listed with the witnesses. It is
felt that in
The Death of Parcy Reed Synopsis; Parcy
Reed arrests the reiving outlaw Whinton Crosier
, itis felt Whinton is not a Crosier name, but the name
is Quinton. [39]

Robert Elwald (i.e. Elliot) is receiving
lands of Redhuegh, Over(superior higher in elevation)
and Nether(inferior lower in elevation) on above map
where both Larristons O&N, are near Riccarton O&N.[38]


Lariston tree of Redheugh, including Martin of Prickenhaugh,
pre-Stobs fire.
1586 Martin Elliot’s (intern Ellot clan chief) son Simon
had a lease of land from Earl of Bothwell (Liddesdale,
Braidlie). 1591 a Crown charter of Phillop in Selkershire
and Braidlie (Teviotdale). Martin was called “of”
Braidley, indication ownership of land of Braidley, but
living on the Braidley Bothwell Liddesdale lease Martin
supplied soldiers to the bordering Hermitage Castle. Simon
and Martin of Redheugh, built a tower of Prickenhaugh
in the region of Robert of Redheugh, now living
in Lariston N&O, and the Riccarton N&O Crozier.
It should be noted that a John Elwald who witness the
sasine (deed) of Robert Elwald of Redheugh, likely was
John Elwald of Thorlieshill, near Hudhouse of the Crosar
(Crozier), witness a Scott deed in 1488.[41][40]

The Crosar/Croyser (Crozier) and the Elwald (Ellot) were close. Thorsliehope was land of the Elwald like Gorrenberry

(next to Braidley) previous to Robert Elwald receiving
lands of Redheugh, Larriston, Hartsgarth and other.
Jamie Telfer in The Fair Dodhead Telfer is sent to meet
Martin Elliot, of Prickinhaugh, as shown on the Blaeu
map as being near N&O Ricarrton, and N&O Lariston.
The Pedigree According to the Genealogy of 17047
(previous to Stobs Castle fire of 1712) ELLIOTS OF
LARISTON ; Robert Elliot of Lariston, the 15th, had a
feud with the Armstrongs. Married a daughter of Buccleuch.
His next brother was Martin Elliot, of Prickinhaugh.
The Crozier Hudshouse is in the vicinity of Slaughtree,
home of a Margaret (Meg, Megg, Maggie) Kidd mistress
to Redheugh (Robert 15) now of Larriston, which
he builds a tower for her at Hartsgarth. Second son living
in Larriston with his father Robert chief 15, is William
then of Hartsgrath with his mother (rf sansine/deed).
Next son Gilbert “Gib-bie of Golden Garters” is said to
be born of a father of Larriston, and a mother of Buccluech
(Kidd’s curse, Kidd’s wall). Though a Hob Elwode
(i.e. Robert Elliott), lived and was taken in by
his uncle Clemyt Crossier (i.e. Clement Crozier) of Stobbes
(Stobs) became Clementis Hobs, Gavan Ellot was
first Ellot owner of Stobs, second husband to Gilbert’s
mother, purchases Stobs for his grandson (first son of
Gilbert) William. Gilbert marrying Mary “Fendy” first
cousin to Buccleuch gave William the blood of a Buccleuch.
This William (has first son Sir Gilbert) changed
his support to Buccleuch (King Charles II), then hung
himself so the Cromwellian Parliamentarians, would not
take his estate.[42]

From this William, to indicate loyalty
to the Royalist, and to differentiate the name from
the Parliamentarian, Sir John Elliot which died in the
tower of London, the family of the Clan Elliot chief of
Stobs/Redheugh spells their name Eliott.


Robert Elwald sasine-deed Annals of Border Club

Redheugh Elwald sasine (deed); Crosars witnesses.[43]

In Ulster, Ireland the name Crozier (1659, Croser 1630)
was introduced by settlers who arrived from England
and Scotland, especially during the seventeenth century
with strong associations with Counties Fermanagh and
The Scottish, and other border people followed a similar
path migration from The Liddel Water which is a


Lower Liddesdale, not showing Croziers.
Scottish-English border except in the Debatable Lands
and past Kirhopefoot, where Mangerton is. Migration
followed up into Northern Liddesdale. In Scotland,
the names Armstrong, Elwald (Ellot), and Nixon, may
have had there Scottish birth in the Debatable lands; the
Croyser it is felt took more of a direct route northward
bypassing the Debatable Lands.
Along with the Crosar/Crozier, listed as witnesses are
Grame/Grahams, and Forstar/Foster/Forester. Though
Elwald-Ellot (Elliot) of Redhuegh and Gorrenberry are
listed, along with the son of Buccleuch, Cessford (Roxburghe),
and his brother, and other Kerr, a Wm Gledstanis,
and a number of Elwald as witnesses. There are no
Armstrongs, though Grahams, Foresters, and Armstrongs
had towers along the Liddel.
The Armstrong, and their allies, believe like indigenous
Americans, that land is of the common. Previous to the
Redheugh sasine, the Armstrong Mangerton lands were
re-granted by Arhibald “Bell the Cat” Douglas V Earl of
Angus to Scot of Buccleuch. That is why the Armstrong
are not on sasine.

3.2 Hudshouse [45]
Near burn of same name, tower remains verily exist, and
a peel house at Hudshouse poscessed by this clan. Scotts
of Buccleuch, Vol II page 174.[46]
Hudhouse was a twostory house[47]
with dual doors, making it a strongly built
huddle house. What one would call a “Hudshouse”. Hudshouse
had recent farming up to about 1890, but in ruins
with slight remains of an ancient tower of the Croziers.
Philippo Crosar was recorded on the Rental Rolls of Liddesdale,
being a tenant at Hudshouse in 1541.[49][48]

Hudshouse is below foot of Helcaldenburne (Caddroun
Burn), on Liddel (refer to; Blaeu map of 1654).
Rakestonleis is of Caddroun Burn Tower (Helcaldenburne
1590) of Martin Crozier.

3.3 Treviotdale [51] [52]
The family becomes Treviodale Crosiers of Alderstonshields,
with nearby Clement Crosier in Stobsmigrating
north Clement Crosier on Gledstanis estate land to
Hummelknows just south of Hawick. [54]
The head of the Croziers was Clame (Clement) in Hummilknowes


Hamilton Papers Stobbes

Crosyer, Crosier, Crosser of Agerstoneshields-Alderstonshields
and Stobs.

Crosyer, Crosier, Crosser of AgerstoneshieldsAlderstonshields
and Stobs, on Gladstanis estate in Treviotdale, 1544 [56]



Hummelknows, Crosar which are surities (in bond) by Clem
Crosar Sureties/bonding of Crosars by Clement Crosar of
Gladstanis land in Treviotdale of Hammelknows, Alderstonshields
and Stobs, which Crozier (Crosar) were tenants;


Gledstanis land which Crosar are tenants.

3.4 Fermanagh
The relation between the Crosare (Crozier), Elwald (Ellot),
Home (Hume), in the Minto (Wolflee/Wolfhopelee)
regions is shown in a Declaration of Sasine to David
of Home 1436, when a Johannis Elwald, and a Jacobi
Crosare witness the deed of David Hume receiving
land from of Wolflee and Wolfhopelee from William

John Croser sword only is listed in the ca1630 munster
rolls of Tully Castle (1630 Tully, Monea, and Tullykelter
Castles exist, but Castle Hume was built later) the
Barony de Magherboy, Fermanangh, Ulster. Croser, Ellot
and Hume in this same region as found two centuries
earlier, in southern Treviotdale with Sasine of David


Maghereboy, Fermanagh, Ulster, Hume, Hamilton and
Somerville lands of
Tully, Monea, and Tullykelter Castle lands.
In 1659, Crozier were listed in the Census of Fermanagh/Armagh,
1528 IN DEBATABLE LANDS; Of the Armstrong, Ellot,
Nixon and Crosar; the most numerous in 1528 are
the Armstong then Elwands, Ellwoods, or Elliots who extended
into Teviotdale, Nixons which are more numerous

in Cumberland than Scotland and the Crosars in Upper
Liddesdale with their chief stronghold at Riccarton.[30]
A CENTURY LATER IN ULSTER; Across the water to
Ulster into the counties of Fermanagh which now borders
Ireland, and Armagh. Given numbers for the Armstrong,
Elliot (Ellot), Nixon, and Crozier (Crosar) of Fermanagh
and Armagh,[62]shows these two counties were stepping
stones, into the English Plantations and around the world.

The United States;
Early Crosier into Boston, Massachusetts; CROSIER
TIME LINE by Charles Crosier.[63]
1735 December 29 – An intent to marry is recorded in
Kings Chapel for John Crosier and Martha Lindsey.
note; John Croser b. ca1714 Ireland?, father William
Samuel Crossett and mother; Martha Hamilton, married;
Martha Lindsay 1735 in Boston, Massachusetts.
1735/36 January 13 – John Crosier marries Martha Lindsey
at Kings Chapel (Episcopalian).
Were like many Crosier/Crozier of Ulster (Scot-Irish)
would have been Episcopalian.[65]

Traditionally the Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Crozer
(Crozier) family was founded by five brothers, Andrew,
John, James, Robert and Samuel of Northern Ireland (Ulster),
arrived in Philadelphia about 1723, unrecorded parents
were likely with them.[66]

Norwalk, Conneticutt, Richard Cozier (Crozier), wife
Abigail Brown listed in deeds of 1709[67]deceased

5 Crozier Coat of Arms
Traditional design features, are the fleur de lis of France
used in England[69]
and America (Crozier’s General Armory:……
ed William Armstrong Crozier), with
French being the basis to the name Crozier. Azure or
lapis blue being a tradition colour of the Crozier Clan
The cross is the Christian (St George’s Cross), colour
scheme in that of the arms of the Armstrong and the
Scottish flag. Though the white could be turn to gold if
the Irish want their coat of arms different. The Irish of
mainly Fermanagh/Armagh, have Liddesdale/Teviotdale
Scottish origins. The stag head is found normally on[64][70]


Coat of Arms for armigerous Clan Crozier to share.
top in the caboose is on the white cross, and is a symbol
used by the King/St Elwald (Ælfwald I of Northumbria),
and the Cumbria Ellwood,[71] [72]along with the Horsliehill
[73] [74] (William) Ellot. Stag head is in the centre,
which makes the arms unique and compacts the design
to a shield.


Sceat of Elwald minted in York;


For artistry the stag head is not symmetric, and is vertically
compact to fit on the vertical member of the cross.
Stag looks towards the left, for people of a society which
reads from left to right, the stag seems to as being addressed
from the left looking at the reader. Two colour
scheme of white (gold maybe substituted) and blue is utilized,
in svg (scalable vector graphics). Public domain to
be shared by Clan Crozier.
Clan Crozier an
armigerous clan, does not have an arms
registered byLord Lyon
the heraldic authority for Scotland. The given are an example
based on Crozier traditional arms, which can be
shared by all Crozier, Crosier, Grozier, Gros, Crosser,
Cross, Cros, Crozat, Crozet and other variant names.
Surnames (Family Tree DNA Crozier site) Crazier,
Crizer, Crosair, Crosare, Croser, Crosier, Crosir,
Crosnier, Crossar, Crosser, Croysar, Croyser, Crozer,
I have not seen the arms-of Croser; but they and the Nixons
were small broken clans, dependent on the Elliots of Lariston,
also broken clan and followers of Buccleugh, it is
probable they would carry similar arms.
Notes and Queries; Oxford University Press, August


E.; (most likely William Elliot)
1876 page 173[76]

note; Clan Armstrong does not have a chief, but Clan Elliot

6 Crozier Tartan
The Scottish Register of Tartans for “Crozier/Crosser”
National Records of Scotland, H.M. General
Register House, Scottish Tartans Authority STA ref:1779


7 Crozier Motto
Crux coelorum, crux mihi clavis erit.
Translation; 1.(Cross of heaven, for me; the keys of heaven.)
2.(Heavens above, the cross will be the key for me.)

Crozier’s General Armory: A Registry of American
Families Entitled to Coat Armor William Armstrong
Crozier Genealogical association, 1904 page 45.

Bulletin d’archéologie et de statistique de la Drôme, Vol.
23-24 1889 – Dauphiné (France) Dictionnaire Des
Devises Dauphiné page 505 122.–Crux coelorum, crux
mihi clavis erit (Croix des cieux, pour moi clefs du ciel)
De Crozat.[78]

Anthony du Crozat (Crosset), a French Huguenot is a
refugee to Ireland 1591.[79][77]

8 Visiting Newcastleton-Copshaw Holm
David (Crozier) on a visit to Liddesdale, Newcastleton
noted on a sign in the domain of the public
read;”…..the famous families of Elliot, Armstrong, Nixon
and Crozier…..Welcome to Copshaw Holm.”
Another sign of the region reads. “Nixons, and Crosiers
rode with Elliots and the Armstrongs. ..nicknames
like..Nebless Clem.”
The Steel Bonnets; Book by George MacDonald Fraser,
Nebles Clem is a Crosar, and one would find when the
name Clem is used during this era it is almost always
a Crosier/Crozier. Also G. Fraser, is another individual
which establishes Riccarton, as the place for the

9 Fermanagh/Armagh
From one border to another; Fermangh/Armagh are border
counties of Ulster.
Counties of Fermangh and Armagh shown to stay the
same during the early part of the Ulster Plantation. Londonderry
an “English” County of the newly developed Ulster
Plantation was made from Coleraine and the northeast
tip of Tyrone. As the Armstrong; may Clan
Crozier now, go UNVANQUISHED. [80]

Note; over time some of the internet links have been dropped; Used Google Books a lot as references;

10 References
[1] Great Britain III Acts of the Parliament of Scotland
pp.466-7 (1587)
[2] Middle English Dictionary, Vol 1&2 by Hans Kurath.
[3] Dictionary of the Scots Language Dictionar o the Scots
[4] Piety, Fraternity, and Power: Religious Gilds in Late Me-
dieval Yorkshire, 1389-1547 David J. F. Crouch Boydell
& Brewer Ltd, 2000 page 274
[5] Scots Kith & Kin: A Comprehensive A-Z Guide to the Surnames
of Scotland, the Clans and Their Tartans Collins
Celtic, Collins Celtic Staff, Collins UK Collins, 1989
[6] http://www.sacred-
[7] Letters and Papers: Foreign and Domestic. Calendar of
Henry VIII. Great Britain. Public Record Office, Henry
VIII (King of England) Longman, 1896
geographic- surname-dna- correlation/
[9] The Priory of Hexham, Volume 2 James Raine Society,
1865 pg 26
[10] Transactions of the London and Middlesex Archæological
Society, Volume 4 Bishopsgate Institute, 1922 – London
pg 269
[11] Publications of the Surtees Society, Volume 48 By Surtees
Society pg 26
[12] A History of Northumberland, Volume 3, Part 1 By
Northumberland County History Committee, Edward
Bateson, John Crawford Hodgson, Allen Banks Hinds,
Herbert Henry Edmund Craster pg151
[14] 1266-1272 Great Britain. Public Record Office Kraus
Reprint, 1971
[15] Calendar of the Close Rolls …: Preserved in the Public
Record Office, Volume 24 Great Britain. Public Record
Office H. M. Stationery Office, 1896 – Great Britain pg
[16] Calendar of the Patent Rolls Preserved in the Public
Record Office By Great Britain. Public Record Officalendar
of Close Rolls, Public Record Office.Edward III, AD
1333-1337. Index;
[17] The Chronicles of the Armstrong, James L. Armstrong
1903,ed page 31
[18] Family Tree DNA Crozier
[20] Crozier, British Isles
[21] u152/
[24] Genealogy of the Eliot family By William Smith Porter
page 2
[25] | Cros to Cross, Aliot to
aspx?section=ycolorized | Cross; Family Tree DNA
raw=1 | Cross; World Family results.
[28] Colonial Families of Philadelphia, By John W. Jordan.
[29] Canmore Riccarton Tower Site
[30] Family Records By Ashworth Peter Burke pg 195 Crozier
[31] Patent Rolls of the Reign of Henry III: 1225-1232 By
Great Britain Public Record Office, H.C. Maxwell Lyte
[32] History of the Berwickshire Naturalists’ Club, Instituted
…, Volume 12 By Berwickshire Naturalists’ Club (Scotland).
[33] tower | Riccarton
[34] The Exchequer Rolls of Scotland: 1537-1542 By Scotland.
Court of Exchequer, George Powell McNeill
[35] Rotuli scaccarii regum scotorum: The Exchequer rolls of
Scotland, Volume 17 By Scotland. Court of Exchequer,
George Burnett
[36] The Scotts of Buccleuch, Fraser, William, Sir, 18161898.
cn, Publisher:Edinburgh : s.n. page 174
[37] A Break With The Past, Changed days on two Border
sheep farms (Langburnshiels and Riccarton) by Michael
J.H. Robson, Ovenshank Newcastleton 1991 pages 41-49
[38] http://www.sacred-
[40] Scottish arms a collection of armorial bearings,A.D.
1370-1678 by R.R. Stodart Published 1881 by W. Paterson
in Edinburgh.
[41] The Scotts of Buccleuch (1878) pg 92, by Sir William
[42] The Border Elliots and the Family of Minto By George
Francis Scott Elliot; Kidd, Margaret, or Meg, 248. ‘
Kidd’s curse,’ 249 n. ‘ Kidd’s walls,’
[43] The Annals of a Border Club (the Jedforest): And Biographical
Notices of the Families Connected Therewith
George Tancred T. S. Smail, 1899 – History of Scotland

[44] Irish surnames; Crozier
download/14397/20215/ Top historian of Scottish
history. Nicked by Redheugh, and Gorrenberry is
[46] The History of Liddesdale, Eskdale, Wauchopedale and
..Vol1, By Robert Bruce Armstrong.
[48] History of the Berwickshire Naturalists’ Club, Volume 12
Berwickshire Naturalists’ Club 1890
[49] A Hawick Word Book by Douglas Scott DRAFT-vers 2,
Aug 2015
[50] _
| Blaeu 1654-Hudshouse foot of Helcaldenburne
[51] burn- tower
| Caddroun Burn Tower
[52] Colonial Families of Philadelphia, Volume 2 By John
Woolf Jordan pg1387.
[53] The Hamilton Papers: A.D 1543-1590, By Great Britain.
General Register Office (Scotland).
[54] 1569-1578 By Scotland Privy Council
[55] History of the Berwickshire Naturalists’ Club, Volume 13
By Berwickshire Naturalists’ Club Report of Meetings for
1890. By Dr J. Hardy. 63
[56] The Hamilton Papers: A.D. 1543-1590 General Register
House, 1892 – Great Britain
[57] The Register of the Privy Council of Scotland, Volume
1,Scotland. Privy Council, John Hill Burton, David Masson,
Peter Hume Brown, Henry Paton, Robert Kerr Hannay,
H.M. General Register House, 1877 – Archives
[58] Report on the Manuscripts of Colonel David Milne Home
of Wedderburn Castle, Issue 2 Great Britain. Royal Commission
on Historical Manuscripts H. M. Stationery Office,
1902 – Home family
[59] A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Extinct and
Dormant Baronetcies of England, Ireland and Scotland
John Burke, Sir Bernard Burke J. R. Smith, 1844 page
[60] The history of Enniskillen with reference to some manors
in co. Fermanagh, and other local subjects by Trimble,
William Copeland, 1851-1941 Published 1919
[61] Special Report On: Ireland, the 1659 Census, edited by
Irish Genealogical Foundation, M. Laughlin
[62] The book of Ulster Surnames, Robert Bell, 1988
[64] The Crosiers of Halifax, Vermont: Some Descendants of
John Croser C. 1714 – C. 1755 Iris Wilcox Baird, 1996 322
early- modern-history- 1500-1700/
sheep- stealers- from-the- north- of- england- the- riding- clans- in- ulster- by- robert- /|
who wrote The book of Ulster Surnames, Robert
Bell, 1988
[66] Colonial Families of Philadelphia, Volume 2 By John
Woolf Jordan
[67] Book B, pg. 66, Norwalk Deeds, Nov. 18, 1709.
[68] Norwalk,Conneticutt Wills; Mch. 4, 1728/9, page 214.
[69] The British herald, or Cabinet of armorial bearings of the
nobility & gentry of Great Britain & Ireland, Volume 1
Thomas Robson (engraver.) 1830 – Great Britain
[70] Crozier’s General Armory: A Registry of American Families
Entitled to Coat Armor edited by William Armstrong
[71] Bolton’s American Armory By Jina Bolton, Charles
Knowles Bolton
[72] Encyclopædia of Heraldry, Or General Armory of England,
Scotland and Ireland: Comprising a Registry of All
Armorial Bearings from the Earliest to the Present Time,
Including the Late Grants by the College of Arms John
Burke, Sir John Bernard Burke H. G. Bohn, 1844
[73] The History of Liddesdale, Eskdale, Ewesdale, Wauchopedale
and the Debatable Land: By Robert Bruce
Armstrong, Volume 1Robert Bruce Armstrong D. Douglas,
1883 page 178
[74] The Border Elliots and the Family of Minto By George
Francis Scott Elliot page 252
[79] Anthony du Crozat (Crosset), a French Huguenot is a
refugee to Ireland 1591 | The Crossett Name
[80] Kelly’s Journey: July 2015
[81] The Steel Bonnets; Book by George MacDonald Fraser,

11 External links

MSE  12/30/2015

Clan Crozier PDF

Clan Crozier 1-6     Clan Crozier 7-13

Censored From Wikipedia;

Though given my writings, the activity was high, been excluded with writings deleted from writing on Wikipedia.  Even though I am an Elliott and a second generation research genealogist, utilizing Y-DNA verification, and chromosomal reasoning of a marsh dwelling elk (moose) returning to ancient homelands near Berlin, people rather believe the elk (moose) then me. Guess I must be half as smart, but twice as bull headed as that elk (moose).

Clan Crozier  has been censored and deleted from Wikipedia though it had a lot of activity.

Wiki Clan Crozier stats

Information contained in;

Clan Crozier

As compared to the Wikipedia site which had activity;

Clan Eliott stats1

The peaks an most of the activity was caused by censored information to the Clan Eliott site of;

Clan Elliot

Composed by Mark S. Elliott, but like Wikipedia article Clan Crozier, the Clan Elliot information was also censored from the Clan Eliott site.

Also in;

Armstrong Fairbairn link

Mark S. Elliott   1/7/2016

Why Censored?

If historians, can not use deeds (sasine) in the history, then what are they using?


Valid reference on graphic of Redheugh deed (sasine).


Map verifies the Lariston lands of Redheugh;


Because the deed of Redheugh, Lariston, Hartsgarth and other, to the Clan Elliot chief’s land is old, does not make it invalid.

Mark Elliott   1/12/2016

Search engine bias on Clan Elliot search by adding a 2 to elliot to make elliot2;



and find out.

QuintusPentillus of Clan Eliott Wikipedia linking to;

Can anyone figure out who QuintusPentillus is?

MSE 1/14/2016

Can’t be the work of MI6NBW, can it?

North British Windpower NBW Google image search

MSE  1/15/2016

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Genealogy; Y-DNA or Surname Distribution?

Been trying and developing techniques for genealogists to trace lines.

Have online;

Armstrong-Fairbairn-Y-DNA Link

Proto-Germanic R-U106 haplogroup DNA Elwald Elliot

Geographic Surname DNA Correlation

Which have a DNA influence. If DNA is not correlated with other information such as male sharing the same surname, then it is pretty useless for genealogical purposes.

Though my surname line had been in America since ca. 1650, decided to take a look at my mothers line.

mom, Alma Barna (Elliott) father Stephen Barna from Slovakia-Czech Republic, first language; German.

For Barna surname distribution map is;


Though census data is not given for Slovakia-Czech Republic, one can see by Hungarian and Polish census speaking German where he me be from with the surname Barna.

Barna surname distribution

With Josephine Ryan being from Iraland, and she is from the dark blue region.


Ryan surname distribution.

It should be noted that the name Stephen in Stephen Barna as a surname is Scottish.


Stephen surname distribution

Could likely be the reason it was chosen by dad Loren Elliott of a Scottish name,  and mother, as my middle name, as Stephen, spelled in Scotland like my Slavic-German granddad spelled his name Stephen and not Steven.

Mark Stephen Elliott     11/2/2015

From Slavic in Wikipedia;

Polabian Slavs (Wends) settled in parts of England (Danelaw), apparently as Danish allies.[91] (similarity with father’s ancestry?)




MSE 11/3/2015

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Billhope, Braidlie, Gorrenberry, Billhope, 1376, 1541, & 2013





foresta map

1376 Forests;


1541 Elwald (Ellot)

foresta Elwald


2013 Hamlet-Hermitage..

Hermitage Com Council


Mark Elliot   1/29/2015

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Rich Rucker, Clan Armstrong DNA, Question


Because the United Kingdom Armstrong seek and share knowledge in the region of genealogy, this PDF is written for the Armstrong and their border allies which like to pitch-in to help the Armstrong on their ride out;



The Rich Rucker question;

It has been noted that both you and I have been censored from, The Family Tree DNA,  Clan Armstrong website, with no Clan Armstrong contacts listed, where we both consider ourselves Clan Armstrong. You being related to 90+% Clan Armstrong, and I migrating with them out of Germany to Bec,Northfolk, Rimington, Lancashire, to Cumbria, onto Canonbie, and into Liddesdale, Gorrenberry, onto Tullykelter, Fermanagh, then into the America Plantation, next to a Martin Armstrong of Sutton Massachusetts.

Rich Rucker question

No link, because the Clan Armstrong as Scandinavians do not want to claim any leadership. The Bear, sticks the younger brother the Elk (moose, Elwald, Ellot line) with the problem, and tries to give him the only United Kingdom option of a Wm de Aliot line out of France.

Clan Armstrong, I have the right not to be vanquished and become unvanquished as you.

Scientific knowledge in today’s day and in the past can be rationalized, by Puritanical Norman thinkers, to make things to seem correct. Cotton Mather wrote on witchcraft, and Harvard judges hung witches, granddad Scottish; the accusers did it out of sport. Today’s DNA as applied to genealogy is like a metre (yard stick, elwand) measuring the width of a hair. Unless other viable information is inputted, Y-DNA relevancy carries that of the Harvard judges during the witch trials in Salem.

One way to reach further in the past is to use how a family story such as the Clan Armstrong Fair Bear story migrates with it’s people and how the language of these Germanic people migrate towards where the Scottish Borderlands is today.

Stories passed down through families become part of that family history, and the longer they are passed down, the greater their importance. One such story though likely started before the establishment of the surname Clan Armstrong which cares for the story is the Fairy Bear Legend;

Today with my own family history the story seems to have meaning of a migration story. From the personal names German elk/elch and the Danish elg, meaning elk(moose) then paired with the German -wald was likely Old German Elchwald, then Danish Elgwalt (German/Danish king), then traveling to the British Isles where elk(moose) are extinct elch/elk/elg became elf similar toulf which is wolf in Danish, The name personal name evolved into a surname becaming Elfwaldin Norfolk, with and Alan Elfwald of Bec, then in Rimington, Lanchashire, Robert Elwald the son of Alan, onto Liddesdale, Gorrenberry the name became the younger brother of Robert which received lands of Redheugh a William Elwald of Gorrenberry, then onto Tullykelter, Fermanagh Ulster, the name became from the alias Dan for Andrew, a Daniel Ellot. His grandson of the same name Daniel Ellot  on to the American Plantation, with Puritan English the name becomeDaniel Elliot retaining the single “t” the way they today are spelling it on the Scottish Borders.  Then his son of the same name Daniel Elliot moves onto ca1700 Sutton, Massachusetts, and settles on land next to a Martin Armstrong.

In the United Kingdom, I am a Clan Armstrong, because the Norman wolf (lou), ate the Danish elk (elg), and for the name Elliott, only the Normans survive. Being that  Danish elk (elg) and Danish bear (bjørn) in the United Kingdom are friends, I can live among the Armstrong.



Correction; Place of migration origin is #2, migrating to both 1&3.

Gemanic-Danish-E Norse migration


Correction on above; green is other Germanic languages.



Old Norse languages

My family the family of the Elchwald, Elgwald, Elfwald, Elwald migrates with the family of the Fairy Bear (Fairbairn).


I am one step off in 25 to a von Ruecker/Rucker. It should be noted that from my understanding the word “von” like “de” means “of”, so the name Rucker may have a locality it is names after, but I have not been able to find it.

Rucker DNA Germany

Family Tree DNA calculator, at more than 27 generations shows that my DNA is close to being 100% likelihood that were related.

von Rueker Elliott Y-DNA tip calculator

It should be noted that the story of the Fairy Bear starts in Northern Germany, migrates to the borders and south Germany. Given surname distribution the pre Rucker family is from southern Germany, they likely carried the Die Missgeburt, (Armstrong Cronicles, ed Jame L. Armstrong) story with them south, and the pre Armstrong surname of the same Y-DNA group as the Rucker migrated north with their versions of the Fair Bear story.

Rucker surname distribution Germany

The Ruckers, Armstrong, and Elwald (Ellot), likely migrated from where the Old Norse languages began in Northern Germany.


Fair Bear Origins
Old Norse Dialect migrated with the Germanic-Danish Armstrong into the British Isles and north to the borderlands, Crimean Gothic language of these Danes traveled south and carried the origins of the Fair (light in skin color, but darker that Osborn-White Bear) Bear story with them. where the Old Norse (Proto-Germanic-Danish) language had its beginning, is when the Bear (Beorn), Elk(moose, Elg), and Wolf (Danish Ulf, Norman Lou), of the Fair Bear story residing together, with the wolf eating the Elk, and the Bear and Elk were living as brothers, in this land.

R. Rucker;

This is the answer censored by big brother (Clan Armstrong), remember they are not going to censor me out, because my characteristics, are German, Danish, Northumbria, Borders, Ulster, and the Plantations like theirs. The English-Scots do not like to be told they are German, and your family is from where and in accordance to the Fairy Bear story, where the Armstrong came from in Germany, and the Old Norse-Proto Germanic language had it’s origins.

MSE   9/28/2015

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